[sleepdreamy]

These trucks are going for 100,000 where I live. Kind of crazy imo - Tesla SUV with the Wing-Doors is in that same ballpark.

I personally would rather just get an ultimate luxury vehicle at that price point or a suped out Porsche.

[hoffspot]

I can tell you that I own an R1T, and it's awesome. It fits a nice niche in the vehicle landscape right now. Parameters:

- I do not want to buy another ICE vehicle - I want a vehicle with robust offroad capability - I want a vehicle with excellent performance in terms of acceleration and ride - I want a vehicle with premium interior fit and finish - I do not want a full size truck - I'm not particularly price sensitive

When you look at the competition at the 100k price point, it hits a nice sweet spot for those constraints. I think there is a significant market there to address. Telsa's cybertruck might be interesting but the Rivian is far closer to traditional styling and imho, looks and drives great. There is a lot to like there if they can scale their company and the product is certainly worth 100k. I would buy it again.

[iancmceachern]

Exactly. I get the electric cars thing, but not the off road truck thing.

My wife and I are weird, we live deep in San Francisco, and drive 2 cars, one of which is a big diesel pickup. Wait - hear me out.

The city is great, but we need to get away. We've found the most cost effective way to do so in Northern California is to own and use the hell out of an RV travel trailer. We use out truck not to commute, not to run errands, but to drive hundreds of miles in a sitting towing a 10,000lb trailer. We can drive 300 miles towing our trailer, almost 600 without towing anything. I don't commute in it, we do this once to three times a month and it's far less expensive than buying a cabin/property or going to hotels/air bnbs.

In our use case a Rivian, Cybertruck or Lightning would be absolutely useless. If you need to drive more than 100 miles to get "out there" it's a useless vehicle. For people that use their trucks to do real stuff they're useless. If I didn't do these things, regularly tow 10k lbs hundreds of miles, I wouldn't have a truck.

I desperately wanted to go the EV route, waited even. But they just don't fit the use case for folks that actually use their trucks for more than grocery getting. They're like Range Rovers.

[edwrenbeck]

Actually, the only one of those "Wing-Doors" Teslas that can compete with the Rivian would be the Plaid at 150k+. Same with Porsche, the Rivian would blow the doors off any Porsche at the 100k price point. You'd need a high spec Taycan at 150k to compete. Obviously, outside of straight line performance, the Taycan has other capabilities that are superior to the Rivian. Overall though, the Rivian is not only faster in general but it has a great deal more utility and is better suited to daily driving tasks.

[Edited to add] The F150 Lightning might out-compete the Rivian on utility. but can't compare performance wise. That's probably the closest comparison vehicle.

[tass]

Are people really choosing a car based on straight-line acceleration? If you were truly buying because “I want a faster car” then some type of lap time would be a better proxy for that.

[iancmceachern]

And even more than that - a truck! If one cares about performance for God's sake - don't buy a truck.