[tdavis]

I, too, am a Productive Member of Society which means two things: I gave back the terrible Macbook my employer provided and seamlessly and painlessly upgraded from Fedora 15 to Fedora 16 earlier today. Here was my experience:

1. Run preupgrade

2. Reboot

3. Load up xmonad without issue

4. Ask a couple low-level upgrade-related questions in #fedora; get answers in a couple seconds

5. Get back to work

I'm really failing to see what point you're trying to make with your comment, aside from noting that your old version of VMWare Fusion doesn't play very nicely with this Fedora release and that installing VMWare Tools on Linux is a pain in the ass (something I would never dispute, but then running the real thing absolves you of the need to run a VM).

I'm sorry about your experience, but as far as mine is concerned this is another swell Fedora release. Thanks, everybody!

[burgerbrain]

As a productive member of society myself (wtf? The implication here is rather insulting is it not?) I also appreciated Fedora's upgrade situation this time around.

1. Run preupgrade.

2. Reboot.

3. Load up Awesome WM (installed from a 3rd party repo months ago) without issue.

4. Load up Opera (which I installed months ago straight from Opera, again with no Fedora involvement) without issue.

5. Go to youtube and start playing some music with Adobe Flash (you get the pattern...) without issue.

6. Continue working.

I too, do not understand the GP's criticism.

[leif]

Mainly: why are make and gcc not installed?

[burgerbrain]

I'm going to guess because you installed from the live media. The full install media lets you pick what sorts of things you want to be installed as I recall.

If having to do `yum groupinstall "Development Tools"` yourself is your biggest complaint, I'd say Fedora is doing pretty damn well.