[burgerbrain]

As a productive member of society myself (wtf? The implication here is rather insulting is it not?) I also appreciated Fedora's upgrade situation this time around.

1. Run preupgrade.

2. Reboot.

3. Load up Awesome WM (installed from a 3rd party repo months ago) without issue.

4. Load up Opera (which I installed months ago straight from Opera, again with no Fedora involvement) without issue.

5. Go to youtube and start playing some music with Adobe Flash (you get the pattern...) without issue.

6. Continue working.

I too, do not understand the GP's criticism.

[leif]

Mainly: why are make and gcc not installed?

[burgerbrain]

I'm going to guess because you installed from the live media. The full install media lets you pick what sorts of things you want to be installed as I recall.

If having to do `yum groupinstall "Development Tools"` yourself is your biggest complaint, I'd say Fedora is doing pretty damn well.