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by jameshart 1441 days ago
Lots of living, nonhospitalized people, who are catching a preventable disease because community vaccine uptake wasn't as high as it needed to be to really stamp out the disease...

... have somehow reached the conclusion that the vaccine which did them no harm whatsoever, and is responsible for their being likely to have a very mild case of the disease, was not safe or effective?

Why on earth have they reached that conclusion?
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Vecr 1440 days ago
> because community vaccine uptake wasn't as high as it needed to be to really stamp out the disease...

No, that's never going to happen, and never was going to happen. Even the FDA presenters to VRBPAC (Peter Marks? Can't remember exactly) admit it. That's even without spillover and spillback between humans, deer, cats, etc. This type of virus is absolutely not a candidate for eradication, even the most optimistic predictions from before the pandemic would have required the periodic stamping out of spillover related outbreaks across the world for the foreseeable future.

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internet_user 1441 days ago
>which did them no harm whatsoever

Astrazeneca was suspended in eighteen countries across three continents. Nordic countries pulled Moderna.

"no harm"? really?

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wizofaus 1440 days ago
No significant number of people have died or suffered permanent harm from taking any covid vaccine that I'm aware of. Yes certain countries have at various times suspended distribution - the best explanation was concern that if any of these vaccines did end up killing people, it would destroy public trust to the point vaccination uptake would be massively reduced. But those very same vaccines are still being administered to 100s of millions of people. I think we'd know by now if they really were harmful.
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internet_user 1440 days ago
False. We do know that they can cause harm.

That's why they are either limited or outright banned for certain populations.

Moderna remains banned in the Nordics for boys/men under 30. NHS does NOT give AZ boosters, only mRNA. NHS will not give AZ for those under 40, only mRNA.

Follow the science below:

[1] https://thl.fi/en/web/infectious-diseases-and-vaccinations/w...

[2] https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavir...

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jameshart 1440 days ago
Institutions changing advice and reacting with an abundance of caution to protect public health causes you to lower your trust in health regulatory agencies?

What would you need them to do to increase trust?

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internet_user 1439 days ago
Get politics out of medicine? I'm not holding my breath.
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