[simonebrunozzi]

This isn't Reddit.

I don't want to defend anyone, but at the same time, if I see accusations, I'd like to see substance and reference points, not just "they're scumbags", end of conversation.

Please, provide some details on why you think they're like that.

[hef19898]

A short search for this eyeball scanning cryoto scheme of Sam's on HN will answer that question. At least why OP thinks it.

[PebblesRox]

Here's a post from 3 months ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30931614

[sdfhdhjdw3]

They were offering shitcoins in exchange to people scanning their eyeballs. That's a double-whammy of dodgy behavior.

No, I don't need to provide details. If you don't see it, you're a lost cause.

[davidatbu]

Are you aware that the eyeball scans are only used in a zero-knowledge proof? So they collect no biometric data actually?

[sdfhdhjdw3]

Not everything is a question of "does it collect data", actually.

They're collecting _some_ value from individuals, whether you understand it or not.

Your comment reminds me of Facebook's disingenuous "we we're not _selling_ the data", which just a way of distracting from the real issue. This isn't about data, it's about yet another incremental stripping down of individual's control over their intrinsics.

[davidatbu]

You seem to agree that they don't collect biometric data, so I'm not sure exactly what "intrinsics" is being "stripped down" from individuals, in this case. Could you clarify?

[sdfhdhjdw3]

I don't agree to anything, because I don't know enough about it. They SAY they don't collect data, they SAY it's a zero knowledge proof. Who knows about that.

What I know is that they're extracting some value from people who (like me) likely don't understand the implications. This isn't complicated.

[davidatbu]

Because you so confidently asserted that they were "all scumbags" who have no "credibility", I'd expected much more certain evidence about the nefariousness of Worldcoin.

I, like you, believe it is very important to remind folks that they should clearly understand the value prop of an exchange before they participate in it.

But I don't think that calling "scumbags" the folks behind any proposed value exchange (like Worldcoin) that you yourself (self-admittedly) don't fully understand the implications of, is a way to achieve that.

[skinnymuch]

This disingenuous method of distracting from the real issues is so commonplace in everything web3 (and corporate)

Edit: Good job with your arguments for the rest of the thread too.

[yomkippur]

Why do you feel the need to apologize for a well documented display of shady behavior?

It just puzzles me when people jump into defend what is clearly unsavory and amoral behavior.

Just because its legally grey area doesn't mean its moral.

[skinnymuch]

Especially because they could have done a basic search for what the person was talking about. Not everything needs to be cited if it’s an easy search away.

Agree with not just this comment but your comments as a new throwaway (I assume?) account in general. Though I don’t care about the CCP enough to be as anti CCP as you. Tho Ofc I am anti CCP