[wnolens]

$131.81 per 3 months with current sale price. $188.30 otherwise

Feels steep for a CBT app where I gotta do all the work!

I sleep quite poorly, but I got to the checkout screen and.. nah. No doubt I'd drop that cash in an instant to sleep better. But I have little trust in filling out prompts and listening to rain sounds.

What has worked quite well for me is yoga nidra (guided meditation). Search YouTube for a voice you like (some have bg music I hate, or thick accents which put me off). I can't find the one I use, but I downloaded it to an mp3 on my phone (no auto play!) and it works almost every night. 20 min meditation and I've almost never heard the last 5 mins.

Edit: this is my fav https://youtu.be/7IEc3Y6D7BA

[HyprMusic]

The problem I always found with guided meditation was that I would wake up once the guided meditation stopped and I would have slept so well in the 60 minutes during the meditation that I wouldn't be even remotely capable of falling asleep again.

Maybe the solution is a shorter one like you mentioned, so it only helps me get into that sleepy phase. I completely agree in its effectiveness though, I often violate almost every rule of good sleep hygiene and a guided medication will still do the job of getting me to sleep if I'm desperate.

[dunefox]

Loop it?

[dredev]

Great to hear that you found something that works for you. If guided meditation works for you almost every night, then you should certainly stick with it! For many of our patients (including myself), guided meditation worked in the short term but then stopped working because it didn’t actually resolve their underlying insomnia (e.g., for me, a lot of my insomnia came from distortive thoughts I had about sleep).

Our app is different from pure meditation/relaxation apps that offer “rain sounds”. Instead, we go through a psychology-based program (behavioral therapy) that walks you through the underlying causes of insomnia, helps you address the ones that are relevant to you, and uses techniques like sleep restriction therapy to limit the amount of time you spend in bed.

I’ll give an example. Let’s say when you go to bed at night, you’re constantly thinking about unfinished todos or worrying about some big upcoming event. While meditation and “rain sounds” might help distract you enough to fall asleep, what if you stopped having those thoughts in bed in the first place? That’s what our app aims to do.

In terms of pricing, we do offer a free, 7-day trial and our price ends up being about $45 per month. In comparison, seeing an in-person treatment specialist costs about $150-200 per session without insurance, or $25-$50 per session with insurance. Typically, you would see an in-person specialist every week or every other week.

[jalopy]

What is the difference between the $131 plan the the lifetime access for $29 I found here:

https://checkout.stripe.com/pay/cs_live_b1WrHao6Sw3In1xSCzhG...

[wnolens]

The "rain sounds" crack I got from your only product image. It was literally "nature sounds" though.

I agree meditation is a bit of a short fix, but without knowing what this app really does, I have a difficult time trusting that it's anything more.

45/mo feels like a marketing trick when the minimum charged is $133 :(

There's definitely a mental block with paying hundreds of dollars for a phone app. Most apps on my phone remain unopened. I've tried a few health aids like this before.

I'd download a free/trial version if it helped me get any amount of of sleep back, and then with established trust, pay $20+/mo for access to rest of features.

Otherwise maybe sell through those specialists? Help them manage their patients.

[jamesmunns]

Just wanted to +1 this, I did fill out the survey, but was a little disappointed to end up at a payment screen. Totally understand this is a service worth paying for, but being able to try it out for a bit before entering payment details would be nice.

I know I could hit cancel, but I am often bad at doing that on time, which leads me to avoid trying out things that require payment details up-front.

Thanks for sharing!

[polk]

Hijacking this comment to share another alternative: the app Balance (https://www.balanceapp.com/) has really great sleep meditation, a bit similar to Yoga Nidra. They're currently running a promo where you can choose how much you pay for your first year (incl. a free option). I've tried a lot of Youtube/Spotify before and Balance works better for me. Plus doesn't come with the risk of being blasted awake by the next video/song/ad when I forget to set a sleep timer.

They also have excellent meditation for naps, where you can set how long you want to nap before they wake you up.

[onion2k]

Feels steep for a CBT app where I gotta do all the work!

I think you feel that way because you don't need the app enough. $188 to fix sleep when you're not getting enough is a bargain.

[tjoff]

You assume that it works.

$188 to not fix your sleep is not cheap.

[dredev]

Hi there, you're right that $188 is not cheap. That's why we offer a 7-day free trial so that you have some time to decide if our app is right for you. More importantly, we have a 30-day money-back guarantee and you can request for a refund, no questions asked.

Regarding efficacy, our program works for over 80% of our users and we're just as effective as in-person treatment. In comparison, seeing an in-person treatment specialist costs about $150-200 per session without insurance, or $25-$50 per session with insurance. Typically, you would see an in-person specialist every week or every other week.

That being said, we understand that not everyone can afford our program. Please email us at [e-mail] if you have difficulty paying for our program and we can find something that works for you!

[SpikeDad]

Of course you have double blinded independent studies to back up your rather amazing claim that it works for over 80% of your users.

[wnolens]

I've paid many thousands over my life time to improve my sleep. I almost blindly clicked BUY on this for $188. But given what it is I have great doubts. It's a bit steep for a dice roll.

[mrcartmeneses]

I tried a guided meditation app and the lady strayed talking about my tongue and my eyeballs. Weird