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by cwmma 1476 days ago
> People frequently die, or get sicker, as they wait their turn in months long queues or lack of supply due to government quotas.

There are often months long waits for here too, try getting a dermatology appointment, we just also have the privilege of paying for it out of pocket as preventative skin care checks are not actually classified as preventative medicine so it counts towards your deductible meaning you have to pay the first $2000.
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maerF0x0 1476 days ago
pay out of pocket is the nature of the system, so it's not really a point.

What would be a good point is a discussion about if want a society where the people who pay for a procedure get better outcomes, or if we're willing to say to those who pay "You will get a worse outcome because we're also serving those who cannot pay. This comes down to cultural values and ethics.

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arcticbull 1476 days ago
Again, you are ignoring that healthcare outcomes in Canada are generally the same or better and that wait times exist in both systems. [1]

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2801918/

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cwmma 1476 days ago
> "You will get a worse outcome because we're also serving those who cannot pay

Vs America where you get a worse outcome due to laborynthian beuracratic rent seeking.

Sounds terrible for Canadians to be forced to make things better for poor people if they want to improve things for themselves.

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