[julianbuse]

I wonder how this would stack up against my m1 pro equipped mbp 14.

[EduardoBautista]

I am waiting on an M1 Pro MBP 16 (I currently have the Intel MBP 16). Although right now I am thinking of cancelling that and ordering a MacBook Air and using that until the M2 Pro chips are released.

[rpastuszak]

I switched to MacBook Air M1 from MBP 16 Intel a month ago, and

a) it still feels weirdly faster then the MBP

b) I can spend 6h outside working from the garden on one charge (running vitejs or react native + metro, plus slack, Spotify etc...)

c) I'm still a bit pissed that I didn't wait a month for the 2nd gen

[moneywoes]

Anything you miss from the 16?

[rpastuszak]

Having ports on both sides of the machine. I use a usb-c display and need to flip the laptop upside down when docking. Otherwise my cables would get a bit messy or I’d have to rearrange my desk to avoid direct sunlight falling on the main screen.

Tbh, I have barely used the desk since I bought the machine, so we’ll see how much of an annoyance this will become in autumn:)

[turtlebits]

I have a M1 Pro 16 as a work machine and a personal M1 Air. The screen on the 16" is much better (higher refresh and brighter)

[dartdartdart]

return it!

[cehrlich]

Think about what you do and what you need. I bought an M1 MacBook Air to keep me going until the Apple Silicon 16" Pro, and ended up staying with the Air.

16GB is fine for a typical web dev setup with three Docker containers. When I go out for more than a day I take an external monitor with me, the total package weighs less than a 16" Pro and has way more screen real estate.

Of course there's some people who definitely need the 16" Pro.

[ayewo]

Which external monitor do you use if I may ask?

[cehrlich]

Lenovo M14. The design and hinge is great and the panel is fine, but I actually wouldn't recommend this one as it's 1920x1080 which scales poorly with MacOS. For VSCode or a web browser it's fine though, I just use CMD+(+/-).

Ideally I'd recommend anything with 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 resolution.

[kirbyfan64sos]

Do note that supply-chain issues plagued later orders of the M1 Pro/Max MBPs, so I wouldn't be surprised if it would take a decent bit of time to actually get an M2 Pro/Max, even after it actually gets announced in a few more months.

[rbanffy]

> I am thinking of cancelling that and ordering a MacBook Air

An M1 Pro or Max laptop should still be faster than an M2 Air, and can address a lot more memory (if that's what you ordered).

[ilrwbwrkhv]

Is it though? Still remains to be seen. I am considering the 14 inch Macbook Pro with the M1 Pro chip or the M2 Macbook Air.

[rbanffy]

An M1 Pro starts at 6 CPU P-cores (2 e-cores) and 14 GPU cores at twice the memory bandwidth.

[gnicholas]

It looks like it has more power efficiency, which will matter more for some people than others. They certainly didn't want to trash their previously-flagship laptop processors...

[skrowl]

Given that the die size is even bigger, I'd expect them to have even worse thermal issues than the M1 Pros, but only time will tell

[thebean11]

The M1 pro is the coolest device I have ever used, not sure what you mean by "even worse"

[kgermino]

The M1 Pros occasionally get hot enough you can hear the fan over a quiet conversation. Are you referring to the previous generation Intel MBPs which routinely maxed out their cooling system and thermal throttled?

[msbarnett]

Even worse thermal issues than ... a laptop with no thermal issues and a fan that never even seems to audibly turn on?

[rbanffy]

> worse thermal issues than the M1 Pros

What thermal issues?

[microtonal]

What thermal issues? I can build PyTorch with all cores and the fans do spin up, but they are barely audible in a normal environment. When you touch the laptop it's warmer than idle, but not hot at all.