[justinph]

Every time this guy tweets, I regret my purchase more and more. Can't he just keep it focused on the cars and the share price? Instead it always has to be some ego trip about how he is smarter and harder worker than everyone else.

I hope this pushes folks at Tesla to unionize. The NLRB has ruled health and safety are subjects of mandatory bargaining. If your employer is making you return to an unsafe office during a global pandemic, this is in violation of that.

[30944836]

>Every time this guy tweets, I regret my purchase more and more.

You are certainly free to feel however you like about your own purchases, but I have to say, I don't understand it. Either you like the car or you don't. If you do -- great! Drive away. If you don't -- sell it. Don't see what the WFH policy of Tesla has to do with anything.

Tesla employees are adults. They are not trapped by poverty wages. They are professionals. They can leave if they don't like it.

I'm a die-hard WFH'er and also not a CEO. Musk should run his company how he feels best.

[kenjackson]

You don’t care anything about who the money from your purchases flow too? In most cases I don’t, because I don’t have much insight into it. But to the extent that I can keep my money from going to people I despise, I think it makes sense to do so.

[30944836]

It makes sense from a pre-purchase perspective, but in a post-purchase state -- what's done is done; regretting a purchase has no impact on the world.

[skinnymuch]

Regretting can help you make sure not to promote the product, sell the product, and more. It can be quite helpful.

[grogenaut]

many people buy teslas for the statment it makes about their views and priorities. so its not surprising those same people dislike when its not just about the environment amd now tangled up with musks world view of the day.

[30944836]

>many people buy teslas for the statement it makes about their views and priorities

You're right about this. That's a stupid reason to buy a car, though, and indeed a stupid reason to buy anything.

[prawn]

If the environment is a priority for you, is it stupid that you buy an electric vehicle and partially hope that it encourages others to do the same? And would it be stupid if you regretted that Musk was needlessly muddying that?

I don't think either situation is ridiculous.

[skinnymuch]

Buying things that fit your world view is stupid? Climate change is very serious.

[leokennis]

I think this is a naïve view. If you do not like the next leader in your country, you'll not complain since you are not a trapped adult, and you'll emigrate instead?

People have a right to expect reasonable policies from their employers. It should not be "I'm the CEO, I'll do whatever I damn well please and you either take it or leave".

We are not in the 1800's anymore.

[Andrew_nenakhov]

> People have a right to expect reasonable policies from their employers.

No, they don't have this right. What the 'people' might find unreasonable can be, in fact, very reasonable from the point of view of their employers, who quite possibly have far more knowledge about the best way to run an organization. They also have far more responsibilities than workers, the biggest of which is paying the salary. The employee can get away with not doing any work for months, which is relatively easy on remote. Try getting away with not paying salary!

To combat unreasonable policies, people DO have a different right: to quit and find a job they like more.

[leokennis]

We are talking about employers and employees who we can both assume to be adults.

There is no reason for Musk to say: "come to the office for 40 weeks or I'll fire you" - this is not how employer-employee relations should be in the 21st century.

[Andrew_nenakhov]

Nobody defines how employer-employee relations should be in the 21st century but the employers. They run their business as they please. Employees decide if they want to work for them, or walk away.

Also. I do have experience with very adult people who fake productivity working remotely. Some even brag about 'working' remotely for several companies at once, effectively frauding their wage from each.

[leokennis]

I think we’ll not come to an agreement. Personally I find the top-down views you seem to hold on employment and workplace conduct very reminiscent of the “zero sum capitalism” from the Industrial age.

[jasd]

I would agree with you in most cases, but somehow can never convince myself to stay at Trump hotel ever!

[bko]

Why does this bother you? He's running a business and for whatever reason he feels its important to productivity have employees come into the office. I don't know why you're so confident that this decision is an "ego trip" as opposed to an effort to more effectively produce cars and help the share price.

> If your employer is making you return to an unsafe office during a global pandemic, this is in violation of that.

You're living in a bubble if you most employers are okay with indefinite work from home after two and a half years.

[caffeine]

This isn’t an Elon tweet.

> Can't he just keep it focused on the cars and the share price?

I actually agree with your sentiment, but for a different reason - I think tweeting is a massive waste of his time which I would prefer be spent either working on any of his amazing companies, or for restorative rest - but obviously I don’t get a vote where he spends his time!

For the same reason, I really hope he doesn’t buy Twitter - not because I don’t like what he’ll do, but because Twitter is a dumpster fire and I don’t want his valuable attention squandered on something so worthless as fixing discourse Twitter.

> I hope this pushes folks at Tesla to unionize.

Elon corporate culture/values seems like it’s definitely unique, and not something for everyone.

It’s probably better for everybody if those who aren’t onboard go work somewhere that aligns better with their values.

Tesla China doesn’t have these problems.

[refurb]

I mean this was leaked? He didn’t post it.

And isn’t running a business efficiently, including on site workers, “focused on the cars and the share price”?

[_ph_]

Admittedly, that wasn't a tweet by Elon, but a leaked internal mail. But yes, it hints at less than optimal working conditions.