[leokennis]

I think this is a naïve view. If you do not like the next leader in your country, you'll not complain since you are not a trapped adult, and you'll emigrate instead?

People have a right to expect reasonable policies from their employers. It should not be "I'm the CEO, I'll do whatever I damn well please and you either take it or leave".

We are not in the 1800's anymore.

[Andrew_nenakhov]

> People have a right to expect reasonable policies from their employers.

No, they don't have this right. What the 'people' might find unreasonable can be, in fact, very reasonable from the point of view of their employers, who quite possibly have far more knowledge about the best way to run an organization. They also have far more responsibilities than workers, the biggest of which is paying the salary. The employee can get away with not doing any work for months, which is relatively easy on remote. Try getting away with not paying salary!

To combat unreasonable policies, people DO have a different right: to quit and find a job they like more.

[leokennis]

We are talking about employers and employees who we can both assume to be adults.

There is no reason for Musk to say: "come to the office for 40 weeks or I'll fire you" - this is not how employer-employee relations should be in the 21st century.

[Andrew_nenakhov]

Nobody defines how employer-employee relations should be in the 21st century but the employers. They run their business as they please. Employees decide if they want to work for them, or walk away.

Also. I do have experience with very adult people who fake productivity working remotely. Some even brag about 'working' remotely for several companies at once, effectively frauding their wage from each.

[leokennis]

I think we’ll not come to an agreement. Personally I find the top-down views you seem to hold on employment and workplace conduct very reminiscent of the “zero sum capitalism” from the Industrial age.

[Andrew_nenakhov]

Since my company is my business, and Musk's company is Musk's business, it is both figuratively and literally not your business how we should run them.

But hey, you are always welcome to start your own company and run it as you think companies 'should' be run in the 21st century!

[leokennis]

Thanks mate. I’m just glad my employer also takes into consideration the wellbeing of the assets that make his business profitable: the employees.

If your employees enjoy working for you: glad it’s all working out. If they (secretly) don’t, good luck running your business in a job market with ongoing labor shortage!