[cies]

i just had a look at it.. one: i feel sad for all who are 'married' to php. :-P two: it seems that php is catching up on the frameworks (code ignitor, cake, yii, and this one)

[jtreminio]

Thanks, but I don't need your pity. I enjoy working with PHP, and I really enjoy studying, playing around, and finally making money with quality frameworks like Kohana and Symfony2 (still learning this one).

I may not be an uber-programmer like you, or have a $55,000 college education/loan, but PHP makes it easy, fun and profitable to be self taught.

So, yes, I'm "married" to PHP, much like I'm married to jQuery, but keep your pity to yourself.

[jamesgeck0]

I like the way Symfony2 is laid out. The project structure it gives you seems better suited to large applications than the way Rails lumps everything together.

Unfortunately, in the beta, you had to place the bundle name/path in a about six different places for a single bundle. It was somewhat cumbersome to do manually (although there was a rails-like generator script).

I also wasn't trilled with the debug messages. Half the time they gave information about the internals of the framework and no reference to the place in my bundle where the error was.