[bostik]

I think promotions to the next level should just be considered a new job (in the same company), and you don't 'win it' or get promoted - instead you apply for it and go through an interview process.

That sounds like a recipe for an incredibly toxic environment. Not only are you hired for a specific pigeonhole, you are expressly forbidden from progressing through it: at least in some sane companies promotion is preceded by already having done the new role for a time and the title jump merely formalises the situation.

In fact, I thought the pigeonhole hiring in traditional finance was bad enough. You just managed to outdo decades of dysfunction in one try.

The last thing we need in tech is a codified caste system.

[grog454]

The other posts in this thread make it sound like internal promotion has higher barriers than an external apply/interview/offer process. Bizarre when you think about it, but it does seem to be the norm. The person you're replying to is suggesting that employees should be encouraged to apply to other positions within their current company as if they were an external hire.

I've worked at a company that did both (internal promotion and internal re-hire) and IME people that actively applied to new positions had faster "career progression".

[coredog64]

It’s far easier to get a boomerang promotion at Amazon than it is to work through the process.

[digitalgangsta]

codified caste system? Have no idea what you mean.

You're hired for a position, when you feel you're ready for the next level you apply, if not, just continue where you are. This doesnt mean you dont get paid more the better you perform. Why do you need someone above you to say you're ready for the next level?

[selimthegrim]

When professors apply for promotion from associate to full in academia, and they don't get it, do you think they apply again? Clearly you would have to jump to a different company in your case if you are denied the first time unless there has been a total management turnover.