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by inter_netuser
1543 days ago
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Ukraine had two ministers of national security who are openly neo-nazis. Ukrainian nationalists committed massacres in Odessa: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/02/ukraine-dead-o... Their national hero:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-of-ukrainian-national... "Stepan Bandera led Ukrainian Insurgent Army, which fought alongside Nazi Germany during WWII, killing thousands of Jews and Poles" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#Jews
They sure love to name streets (50 thousand streets reenamed since 2015!) erecting monuments, and march in parades for an actual, documented and proven Nazi collaborator, anti-Semite, and racist who slaughtered thousands upon thousands of Jews, Poles, anyone not Ukranian, in pursuit of "pure" Ukrainian race" (his own words, published in WaPo, of all places).That's their national hero. Unverified, with only 50,000 monuments and streets named after a literal Nazi. Obviously only angels live in that country. |
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sigh The Bandera argument. I lived in East Ukraine for several years and they're not all hoo rah rah about Bandera at all, so I don't buy the "all Ukrainians worship Bandera THEREFORE they're all Nazis" argument. It's lazy, frankly.
Bandera also spent most of WWII in prison, by the way.
The Israel Times "article" is a poorly researched blurb, not an article. It also says that Ukraine started an armed conflict with Russia in 2014, which is a very Putin-esque take on what the rest of the world sees as an unlawful annexation of sovereign Ukrainian territory.
Was Bandera a hardcore Ukrainian nationalist? Yeah. Remember that Wikipedia article you're citing to me?:
"Ukrainian nationalism did not historically include antisemitism as a core aspect of its program and saw Russians as well as Poles as the chief enemy with Jews playing a secondary role."
Does that mean people in WWII were angels? No. Is history much more nuanced than you're making it out to be? Yes.
Also, not sure where you're getting that 50,000 number from at all.