[V__]

> Editor’s Note: The claims in this paper have not been verified because the researchers have refused to yield their full dataset and methodology, citing “intellectual property rights,” “the sanctity of the First Amendment,” and “the Wright brothers never had to show their work.” We are publishing their paper here because they won’t stop mailing hard copies in triplicate to our homes and offices.

Love it.

[0xfeba]

Also:

> We prefer subtitles over machine-learning-based detection because the presence of a cough in subtitles means it was prominent enough for a person to write it down. Also our postdoctoral fellow was the only one who completed the Tensorflow tutorial.

lol

[hiccuphippo]

In my experience Closed Captions almost always describe sounds, specially if they happen offscreen or things like the type of background music; Subtitles don't, I assume they expect you can hear the sounds.

[mcv]

Subtitles frequently describe entire background conversations I can't hear when I'm watching at home. Maybe I should turn up the sound to a ridiculous level.

[JadeNB]

This was taken to a ridiculous extreme in the marvellous The Spanish Prisoner, where the whole point at the end is that you can't hear a certain conversation—but it's still subtitled!

[finnh]

I love that movie. Now I need to re-watch with subtitles!

[soneca]

Also, Closed Captions always describe sounds and lines of background dialog (like TV) that I definitely can’t hear in the sound.

As a non-native English speaker who can hear I often see movies and shows with English audio and English closed captions, the redundancy helps me. It happens all the time that the CC tell things that you just can’t hear in the movie.

[JadeNB]

> Subtitles don't, I assume they expect you can hear the sounds.

Many—though not as many as it should be—(English-language) movies explicitly include two English-language subtitles, "English" and "English SDH", standing for "English (subtitled for the deaf and hard-of-hearing)". The latter includes subtitling for sounds.

[mitchdoogle]

I feel like the terms "subtitles" and "closed captions" are interchangeable in this instance

[chockchocschoir]

Which makes sense, "Closed Captioning" (CC) is different than "Subtitles", in that the purpose of CC is to provide on-screen text (captions) for deaf/near deaf viewers, while subtitles is captions for just dialogue.

[specialist]

During the apocalypse, I leaned on video for "company" while doing chores. I stumbled onto the Descriptive Video Service, which I guess is super duper Closed Captions.

I love it. I can half watch the show while fussing without missing anything. Even when the show has my complete attention, the added detail is kinda great. Not all the time, but enough to keep things interesting.

https://help.pbs.org/support/solutions/articles/5000673860-a...

[Cd00d]

I accidentally turned this on at the beginning of Toy Story 4. The narration had me convinced that the movie was taking place in a future where Andy was in film school and we were watching him working through his first film based on his childhood toys.

Felt like a fool when I realized it was really super caption for the visually impaired.

[Well_Keen]

> only one who completed the Tensorflow tutorial

Surprised one did, it is a real pain in the arse

[skrebbel]

wow looks like the entire domain https://journal-doi.org/ was made just to make this look like a real journal article, love the attention to detail.

the only reason i checked was because the layout and typography was too pretty for a real journal site :)

<3 pudding.cool

[somat]

But... The Wright brothers did show their work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkpQAGQiv4Q

https://www.loc.gov/collections/wilbur-and-orville-wright-pa...

[yellowstuff]

There was a lot of skepticism that their planes were real, even years after they had first flown publicly. Information spread more slowly in those days.

https://generalaviationnews.com/2011/05/09/fliers-or-liars/#....

[marcosdumay]

They just took their time, and it became a joke because other people were already flying around when they came in public saying they were flying first.

Overall, an entirely irrelevant issue.

[drnonsense42]

Would love to see these folks hijack certain conferences :). Might be good for “science” in the long run

[willis936]

Assuming "science" = pseudoscience: yes but pseudoscience is already doing a bit too well these days.