[pcmoney]

Apple can do this because nobody else makes a high quality monitor that doesn’t look terrible.

In nice offices, each chair is a couple thousand each. Full designs easily $50k+. Theyre not going to mess up a such a thoughtfully designed aesthetic with some slab of black plastic and an Amazon Basics stand (which is what I use) to save $1-2k.

[TAKEMYMONEY]

But a $400 premium?

I work in a "nice" office (with a chair and motorized standing desk that each cost several thousand) and we use nearly bezel-less 4k monitors with brushed aluminum tilt-and-raise stands that aren't made by Apple.

There's a huge range between Apple and AmazonBasics industrial-design-wise now, especially when you're bidding for enterprise-level equipment contracts.

[oneplane]

At that point where the personal work area budget of 200k really doesn't care if your monitor arm costs $50 or $2000... well it doesn't matter anymore.

Price-fighting over workplace items only applies to the mass market. (which is both the problem and the solution: if you want to save some money, buy a different stand and VESA-mount it)

[hughrr]

Decent monitor arms easily cost $300-500.

[D13Fd]

That's untrue. Ergotron LX arms for example hold big monitors perfectly and last basically forever - currently priced <$200:

https://www.amazon.com/Ergotron-Monitor-Monitors-Up-Polished...

[Wistar]

I have several Ergotrons for a few years now, mostly the two-arm models with 27in monitor pairs. My only gripe is that cabling them neatly is difficult.

[TAKEMYMONEY]

1. Excellent monitor arms might cost that much, most are closer to $200-300. Decent ones are way less.

2. This is $400 more than the other arm. You're paying $400 for the added height adjustment.

[w0mbat]

Most VESA monitor arms are like $30 to $40.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=VESA+monitor+arm

[hughrr]

They all seem to have serious problems at that price point. I got through about three before giving up and buying a decent one, albeit second hand.

[ineedasername]

Somewhere in here there's a bad joke about them costing an arm & a leg.

[FpUser]

I have monitor arm that works just fine. Cost me $149 (Canadian pesos) on Amazon.

[hughrr]

To note I paid considerably less than half that for my $300 arm.

YMMV but shop around for corp clearance.

[readams]

Monitor arms are much more complicated than a monitor stand.

[pcmoney]

$400 is literally less than one hour of billable work in most places, negligible.

[TAKEMYMONEY]

I'm aware of the hourly rates for the industry I work in, thank you. We're discussing value.

[vaidhy]

I believe this is sarcasm taken to heights. We have $50K+ designs where people are not allowed to touch and use because the aesthetics will be broken :)

[the_doctah]

>I believe this is sarcasm taken to heights.

No, Apple fanatics really believe only Apple can make aesthetically pleasing things. They are enablers for the company at this point.

[pcmoney]

Please link to an alternative thin bezel, brushed metal or even just non-plastic, 4k or higher monitor with built in 12mp camera.

If it is decently reviewed and a significant savings compared to Apple I know a firm that will buy 200 of them.

[goosedragons]

With the 12MP camera requirement you may as well just specify it has an Apple logo on it.

I find the requirement for non-plastic so bizarre as though it can't POSSIBLY look good. I still think the 17" Studio Display from 2000 looks better than the new one (which still has chunkier bezels than my random Dell business monitor).

[pcmoney]

Sure whatever, nobody wants a $100 logitech zit on the top of their monitor while they are trying to sell themselves as having infinitely superior design/law/whatever skills than the client they are charging $1k/hour to.

[AJRF]

https://consumer.huawei.com/en/monitors/mateview/

[nebula8804]

WOW! Its really sad that outside of Apple everyone else is still producing junk in 2022. Wish this was made by some western brand. It would sell well!

[llampx]

Wow, I want one.

[pcmoney]

Sorry, not going to support a company coupled to a Communist government that blatantly steals IP and is propped up by a genocidal dictatorship. Hard pass.

[jdrc]

It isn't so much about aesthetics, but the look screams 'apple'. Apple is an aspirational lifestyle brand

[hughrr]

Apple also have a warranty and service which is worth more than toilet paper unlike the other brands.

[TAKEMYMONEY]

Repairs outside of the standard warranty on my Apple stuff is usually shackled to expensive paid warranty upgrades and restocking fees.

For example, AppleCare+ for this $2k monitor costs $149, and there's a $99 service fee for screen damage or enclosure damage, and a $299 fee for other accidental damage.

[saiya-jin]

That's... relative. Let's say politely I am not moved by such design and had seen and used monitors which appeal to me more for fraction of that price.

[jimnotgym]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say. I'm getting a bit tired of the metallic look, personally.

I don't think Eizo monitors look terrible. They have nice displays too, and some useful colour management features.

The higher end Benq's look nice to me.

Apple will keep charging it because people keep paying it....

[Wistar]

I own and quite like the calibrated series Benqs

[signa11]

i have been using eizo for past couple of months and i have found them to be just fabulous.

perhaps you can try it out and see if it works for you too ?

[ksec]

>high quality monitor that doesn’t look terrible.

Eizo may be high quality, but it doesn't do well in aesthetic.

[hn_go_brrrrr]

I find them perfectly serviceable? They're not a thing of beauty, but neither are they an eyesore, which is all I really need out of a tool.

[ksec]

Of course they are. But the context in GP's post was about nice office. Think investment or other firms with designer chairs and sofa etc.

[huhtenberg]

I like them a lot more than Apple's.

On FlexScans with their 2mm bezels there's literally nothing to look at but the actual display.

[AmericanBlarney]

The chairs are probably more like $1000 after bulk discount for buying hundreds of them,and they'll last 20 years. Having worked in many corporate environments, including FAANGs that seemingly spare no expense, none of them have used these monitors. It's always a $300ish monitor for developers and I've seen some senior executives with $1000 wide screen curved monitors. Maybe a few designers somewhere get a fancy Apple one (although I've never seen it), but these are not intended for the masses.

[technofiend]

>$1000 wide screen curved monitors.

You can pay well more than $1k for a curved wide screen, but as a counterpoint Dell 34" widescreen curved monitors are less than half that on their website. Most likely because you're not getting gaming features, HDR, speakers, etc, etc. They're pretty stripped. Even so I purchased one for every employee and myself on my old team, the experience was so good we all bought them at Microcenter for home use too, and still they weren't $1,000.

I'm just pointing this out in case anyone is thinking about getting a curved widescreen. The experience is amazing and it doesn't have to cost $1k.

Not that I'm disputing managers make status purchases and spend stupid money on useless things. That much is as true as it ever was.

[pcmoney]

Ya, FAANGs don’t exactly have nice offices, amenity wise sure but nobody GAF what they look like, there’s probably nerf guns and desk clutter everywhere.

Think somewhere with clients and prestige. Law offices, design shops, consulting boutiques etc.

[ren_engineer]

and people wonder why so many VC backed startups fail when they spend money on stupid shit like this

[atonse]

Computer equipment is a rounding error compared to the cost of people, let alone highly sought after engineers.

[thefz]

> Apple can do this because nobody else makes a high quality monitor that doesn’t look terrible.

People prioritizing looks over function is why this enormously expensive display is a 60Hz refresh rate panel. Users buy apple just to show the logo.

[ProAm]

Apple does this because they do not respect their customers.

[FpUser]

Looking at the picture it is just plain boring monitor (not that there is anything wrong about it). I fail to see a single bit of "thoughtfully designed aesthetic".

[abcd_f]

Eizo makes fantastic high-end monitors.

[pcmoney]

Quality sure, aesthetically coherent? No