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by calumetregion 1561 days ago
Highly online life leads to instability. It's like living your life in a packed subway car. Stress response. This is why cities are less healthy for you as well.
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> This is why cities are less healthy for you as well.

Is there a citation for this? First time I've heard this said.

If that were true wouldn't all the ultra wealthy avoid living in cities at all?

I definitely chose my phrasing by design: "less healthy"

I have no doubt there are vigorous academic arguments happening whether there are ways to mitigate the stress of population density and be healthier than would be expected. I'm open to that concept and ideas.

Yet the research on urban living and mental health is overwhelming - your chances of schizophrenia, mood disorders and anxiety skyrocket in cities. I was born in a large metro and lived on both coasts in huge urban areas, and I wish this weren't true because I like the energy of a city.

But you get a couple of whiskeys in me at dinner and I'll flat out say there's almost zero way to make a city healthy. People on top of each other, tremendous noise, light pollution and bad air quality leads to poor health for many people, as well as conflict.

driving is much more stressful to me than subway-riding
Driving in a city, absolutely.

(Although I rarely had a stress-free morning on the DC Metro)

Driving in rural areas or across the western US - piece of cake and even relaxing.

In your opinion do _all_ of the ultra wealthy also avoid _all_ behaviors that might be considered unhealthy? Seems like a weird conclusion to make.
Good point, there are ultra wealthy that still smoke even though there is a tremendous amount of data proving it will reduce your lifespan.
> This is why cities are less healthy for you as well.

This is news to me.

So this is interesting, but I think the claim is overstated, or at least, this doesn't satisfy the claim that cities are less healthy. This show a positive correlation of an increase in specific mental health cases, but that is looking at health only along a single axis.

I'm not saying your claim is wrong, just that this isn't sufficient. There is other evidence that shows that city living is healthier with longer lifespans and reduced obesity.

It's a fascinating subject and one I love to "argue" about when I'm traveling for work and at a bar in the city, people get really fired up! We all dig in to support our life choices.

People in the city tend to be younger and higher income - both skew the numbers. Access to health services - advantage city vs rural. But the stress level is off the charts higher in a city. This is terrible for you.

There is some evidence that suburban or exurban might be the sweet spot, where you get the benefit of access to care and less daily stress.

Walking and movement is important too, so if you can combine income with small town living (community) in an active way you may be way ahead of the game.

I went to school in the Midwest and a good example of this is if you had a hybrid/remote job in Louisville or Cincy, it would likely be much better for your health to live in Madison, Indiana. It's not far away but feels like a different world, much more low key and with a community focus. You could always drive into the city and book a few days if you had that desire.