[vecinu]

> This is why cities are less healthy for you as well.

Is there a citation for this? First time I've heard this said.

If that were true wouldn't all the ultra wealthy avoid living in cities at all?

[calumetregion]

I definitely chose my phrasing by design: "less healthy"

I have no doubt there are vigorous academic arguments happening whether there are ways to mitigate the stress of population density and be healthier than would be expected. I'm open to that concept and ideas.

Yet the research on urban living and mental health is overwhelming - your chances of schizophrenia, mood disorders and anxiety skyrocket in cities. I was born in a large metro and lived on both coasts in huge urban areas, and I wish this weren't true because I like the energy of a city.

But you get a couple of whiskeys in me at dinner and I'll flat out say there's almost zero way to make a city healthy. People on top of each other, tremendous noise, light pollution and bad air quality leads to poor health for many people, as well as conflict.

[liveoneggs]

driving is much more stressful to me than subway-riding

[calumetregion]

Driving in a city, absolutely.

(Although I rarely had a stress-free morning on the DC Metro)

Driving in rural areas or across the western US - piece of cake and even relaxing.

[slingnow]

In your opinion do _all_ of the ultra wealthy also avoid _all_ behaviors that might be considered unhealthy? Seems like a weird conclusion to make.

[vecinu]

Good point, there are ultra wealthy that still smoke even though there is a tremendous amount of data proving it will reduce your lifespan.