When I was growing up here in the US, to me the Royal Canadian Mounted Police always had an aura of honor. Those days are gone. Civil disobedience in Canada today means you may have your money removed from your account by law enforcement unless you cave and fall in line.
It's always been the case that banks had the ability to seize funds, what is new with this Emergency Order is that banks can now seize personal funds without evidence, based purely on suspicion and without legal liability if this power is abused. Those whose assets are frozen also have no recourse through the courts or due process of any kind. The implications are chilling and are very likely to result in Canadian banks losing business and reputation/credibility.
>When I was growing up here in the US, to me the Royal Canadian Mounted Police always had an aura of honor. Those days are gone. Civil disobedience in Canada today means you may have your money removed from your account by law enforcement unless you cave and fall in line.
The protesters have been quite public about how well the police have treated them. The police have at least to date done nothing wrong. So I would not go to the extent to say the RCMP's honour has been harmed at all. Those days aren't gone.
However, this is the problem. Since the police have not been able to end the protest because of charter rights. This forced Trudeau's hand to declare martial law, but any and all peaceful protesters whose rights are infringed will be receiving compensation as per the emergency act.
>The police have at least to date done nothing wrong.
The complaint this time isn't about the police using unnecessary force to brutalize the public. Our complaint is that they haven't upheld the law, and are acting like 'buddies' with the people that they are supposed to be ticketing/incarcerating.
>The complaint this time isn't about the police using unnecessary force to brutalize the public. Our complaint is that they haven't upheld the law, and are acting like 'buddies' with the people that they are supposed to be ticketing/incarcerating.
What law have they not upheld? Some microscopic municipal bylaws? Can a municipal government create bylaws to criminalize peaceful assembly? I guess I have my answer, the Ottawa police says no.
>What law have they not upheld? Some microscopic municipal bylaws?
After googling it for 1 second:
Ontario Highway Traffic Act,R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8 at section 132
132 (1) No motor vehicle shall be driven on a highway at such a slow rate of speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic thereon except when the slow rate of speed is necessary for safe operation having regard to all the circumstances.
There are more violations that apply to the truck drivers then general public too.
>This forced Trudeau's hand to declare martial law, but any and all peaceful protesters whose rights are infringed will be receiving compensation as per the emergency act.
He wasn't forced to do anything, it was his choice, against the wishes of many premiers.
Trudeau should have done what he did with the 2020 train blockade protests. Met with the protestors, had a dialogue about the issues (mandates) and come to a compromise conclusion.
>Trudeau should have done what he did with the 2020 train blockade protests. Met with the protestors, had a dialogue about the issues (mandates) and come to a compromise conclusion.
I totally agree with you there. What happened to the Trudeau who would talk to anyone at town halls.
That's exactly what Melissa Lantsman asked right before Trudeau called her a nazi.
RCMP? They have nothing to do with enforcement in the City of Ottawa (local cops), the brief protest at Quebec City (also local cops), two brief weekend protests in Vancouver (local cops), or the multi-day border closure at Windsor (local cops).
The RCMP do have enforcement duties at the Alberta border crossing and BC border crossing, both now open.
Judging RCMP for the inactions of a useless Ottawa city police force is inaccurate and misleading.
>Interesting. This is the first I've heard of that.
Gotta remember, Trudeau's father declared martial law during the october crisis. There were literally bombs going off, people dying, and I will say there was an emergency then. However, after that because of human rights abuses during that martial law. They scrapped it and replaced it with the emergency act which explicitly requires the government to maintain human rights.
Moreover, in the act, anything the government seizes must be returned to the people. The government doesn't get to just take your things.
The politicians writing the emergency act knew that future governments exercising the emergency act will infringe upon rights. So compensation is to be expected.
Now you have a problem. Any peaceful protesters can stick around and when they get arrested and removed from the area. They get nice retirement fund boosts from the government. So why would you even consider leaving if you want to leave?
The phrase "declare martial law" is 100% misinformation and I wish Americans and/or other interested worldwide observers that do not understand our Emergencies Act that was invoked would stop treating it like so.
>The phrase "declare martial law" is 100% misinformation and I wish Americans and/or other interested worldwide observers that do not understand our Emergencies Act that was invoked would stop treating it like so.
>You are clearly biased and there's no possible way we can have a discussion. Enjoy your day.
Sorry you feel that way. Thanks, you enjoy your day as well.
Oh before you go, if you read the link I provided(section 46). The emergency act specifically disallows charter rights to be violated. So the accounts they have seized already? Under Section 6 of the Charter of unreasonable search and seizure? Ya the government will now be paying them compensation for violating their rights.
Banks pretty well everywhere have long had the ability to freeze funds for a variety of offenses without due process.
It's usually sold as a benefit to the consumer (it protects against fraud is the usual claim) but this isn't new. All kinds of transactions can trip automated detection systems leading to account freezes.
I agree that without a court order it's shady but it's not as though this is really that new. The primary change in the legislation is pushing banks to freeze and report the accounts to the agency responsible for dealing with money laundering.
Do I agree with it? Not entirely. However it's not a new thing and exists in widespread use in most of the world in one form or other.