[Brajeshwar]

Cool. And, I have a 13-year and she is still, literally, crying over spilt milk, hacked Roblox merchandize, how done the steak is, why her monitor is tilted wrong, and why I din't warned her before rebooting the primary router.

[NavinF]

> why I din't warned her before rebooting the primary router

I’m with her on this one. Not announcing the outage before it happens is kinda disrespectful.

[efdee]

You rebooted the router? Without prior warning?

That's the 2020 equivalent of your parents picking up the phone while you're online on dialup.

[scrollaway]

> why I din't warned her before rebooting the primary router.

I’d be pissed too. You don’t mess with the router without warning people using it ;)

[didip]

Did you send a downtime notification to her and update your family’s status page?

[Brajeshwar]

Yes, I did but I forgot to send her notification on our Discord channel too.

[martneumann]

"Daaad, are you complaining about me on the Internet again?!" ;)

[mschuster91]

> and why I din't warned her before rebooting the primary router.

Basic sysops rule: either create redundancy (which is hard to do in a consumer space outside of Mac Pro machines as 99.99% of laptops carry only a single LAN port and in towers, about 3/4) or warn your users before doing maintenance.

[Brajeshwar]

Well, I do have backups. This is India, so I even have a backup for the backup. I have three ISPs load-balanced, and not experienced any downtime since the beginning of the Pandemic (early 2020). I do realize them going down but we never realize until I looked them up.

It runs almost all the time, but sometimes I need to update settings, etc. which needs reboots the load balancer that distributes everything from.

:-)

[blitzar]

And you cant do this durring a) the school day when the primary end user is not home or b) wake up at 2am and reboot it while the primary end user is asleep?

Honestly, I think your kid should break out the SLA and check what compensation they get paid for prime time outages.

[Brajeshwar]

Yes, lesson learnt and we have agreed to the new agreement -- no more primetime outages -- planned or otherwise.

[dkersten]

I mean, another solution is to give warning at regular intervals beforehand (day, hour, ten minutes, 1 minute perhaps). Basically planned outages with ample warning. Of course, avoiding prime time planned outages is always good in any scenario and I'm sure goes a long way to keep all clients happy.

With that said, I doubt your 13 year old daughter client is actually paying for that level of service, so... ;-)

[blitzar]

I believe the SLA for a 13 year old is 110% uptime, with consequences being The end of the world.

I am not a lawyer so feel free to go to court claiming that 100% uptime is the limits of mathematics or that the world will not end if <insert social media platform of choice> is not accessible for 5 minutes on a tuesday afternoon. Its a losing case every time, best just to settle up the case quietly with an extra scoop of icecream or some robux and cut your losses.

[fortran77]

My 13-year-old cat can probably sniff out pneumonia. If only he could talk and tell us what he's smelling.

[nickkell]

All the signs were there. If only we had eyes to see them!

[nexuist]

Wonder where she got that from?

[russellbeattie]

My son, now a sophomore at UCSC, definitely gave me a few moments of "Uhh... I really hope my kid isn't an idiot" at that age. Living in Silicon Valley, he had friends creating crazy Gary's Mod levels using Python (this was a decade ago) that they collaborated on using GitHub. I was shocked at how sophisticated junior high coders could get! My son, however, is not a techie and like his father, has always been a little immature for his age. I was like, "Why is my kid the only one who isn't a genius!?!"

It all turned out well and now he's happily studying economics (yeah, my apple didn't land anywhere near the tree). Everyone matures at their own pace, and computers, as I'm sure all of us know from our own history as geeks, are easy to impress people with. If you're really into biology, animals, astronomy, etc. what can you show people to wow them? Not much that hasn't been seen before. But any 13 yo can download and learn how to use the latest professional CAD software, the same IDEs pros use to make AAA games, or the same backend AI services used by major companies. And they are encouraged to do so! I can't imagine there's a lot of "Learn CRISPR at home!" tutorials out there. That makes a big difference.

[dekhn]

a high end high school will have a biology teacher who can teach high school students to do crispr (crispr is quite easy).

My path into biology was looking into a microscope and seeing a world of non-computer state machines that behaved like cellular automata. and then my path led back to computers because real biology is much harder than CS.

And I think some kids get into astronomy if I demo my telescope showing them planets and stars. But I don't really push kids too hard in one or another direction; my parents thought I should learn german so I could excel at organic chemistry

go slugs

[russellbeattie]

crispr is quite easy

Ha! This is HN, I should totally know better than to throw stuff like that out there. I admit, as I wrote the crispr line, in the back of my head I wondered if it was true or not and just went with it because I thought it sounded witty. I stand corrected!

[honkycat]

She's a child. I'm sure this kid has his moments as well.

Harboring resentment for your teenager for being moody is like the frog and the scorpion. it is in their nature!

Not to say isn't maddening, mind you.