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by Johnny555 1590 days ago
I'm not an urbanite, but on the rare occasion I need a pickup truck, I rent one. I don't like owning things I only need occasionally, I use our communities tool lending library too when I need a tool for a project.
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Just as if you could plan which tool you'd need for a job... You'd be surprised how quick you can go from using a ratchet, to an impact, to an air driven 3/4" impact, to requiring an oxy-acetylene torch for a given job...

How about we agree that we just don't have the same lifestyle ?

Oh, I agree we don't have the same lifestyle, but I don't agree that everyone that "might" need a pickup (or an oxyacetylene torch) should own one because they might have a use for it 6 months from now.
Fortunately, we live in a free society where what you "agree" on is irrelevant to the discussion.

Now, if you want to legislate my freedom away, now I do have a problem with that and we will not be friends.

Don't worry, I don't have any desire to legislate your freedom away, I just want you to pay a fair price for it, including environmental costs.
I'm glad you mastered "How-start-a-civil-war 101".
I'm not sure I understand the problem -- you said you need a big truck to provide a service (haul your food, your mail, etc), which is totally fair, we all use things that were hauled around on trucks, you can't build a road by hauling in asphalt on a Prius. So if there's, say, a carbon tax on fuel, when fuel prices go up, everyone that uses fuel to provide service will see higher costs, so the providers will all increase their rates to make up for it. Many transportation providers already charge a fuel surcharge when oil prices go up.

Why would you start a civil war over it?

I'm sure that externalizing environmental costs is attractive, but that just ensures that no one is going to optimize for it.

Can't answer your comment further down so I'm doing it here.

We (my direct family and I to some extend as well) haul your food, your mail, we build the infrastructure and mine the ore you rely on.

Don't fuck with us, because we'll be happy to make you pay. What happening in Canada right now is just the beginning.

Well of course you should make us pay if you're providing a service, no one said you should work for free, what are you even going on about?

If the price of fuel goes up because it includes a carbon tax, then of course the price of whatever service you're providing will go up too.