[cromka]

> drinks are free but there's still an etiquette that you should leave a tip which generally means cash.

In my experience on such rare few occasions I was able to tip with Venmo.

[throwaway894345]

Is there a "tip with venmo" poster displayed or do you have to ask the bartender their venmo account name? I've never seen this before, but agreed that it's rare.

[digisign]

A potentially malicious third-party selling your financial transaction history is not the best choice... by far.

[throwaway894345]

I wasn't arguing in favor of Venmo, but are VISA and MasterCard really better options in this regard?

[digisign]

They are required for the CC transaction, this adds an additional player that should not be necessary. In civilized countries they have direct bank to bank transfers.

[throwaway894345]

> In civilized countries they have direct bank to bank transfers

I'm sure whatever country you're from (or otherwise alluding to) is a fine place, no need for the transparent insecurity. :) Narrowly, I agree that secure (and fee-less) bank-to-bank transfers would be preferable to CC.

> They are required for the CC transaction, this adds an additional player that should not be necessary.

We're positing a situation where CC's aren't available, so it's not an additional player but rather a different player.

[digisign]

>> CC's aren't available

A misstatement by me, still they are extra to what should be a bank to bank matter.

[Apocryphon]

"Civilized" countries?

[Thrymr]

That don't require tipping?

[namibj]

Like the euro countries with IBANs?

[cromka]

I'd just say "sorry I run out of cash, can I Venmo/Zelle you?"