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by delroth 1598 days ago
Not speaking for my employer, but the actual quote from GDPR is:

> The data subject shall have the right not to be subject to a decision based solely on automated processing, including profiling, which produces legal effects concerning him or her or similarly significantly affects him or her.

Emphasis mine. This would not include the vast majority of automated bans. It's more meant as a way to prevent e.g. automated police action via algorithmic selection.

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I agree that it probably does not include the vast majority of automated bans.. but I'd prompt anyone interested to read the relevant guidelines to understand what might be in scope as far as legal effects or "significant effects" are concerned; it goes well beyond profiling by authorities, and commercial data controllers are far from exempt.

One example of a legal effect is cancellation of a contract. Examples of significant effect include automatic refusal of an online credit application, and e-recruiting practices without any human intervention.

Advertising is in scope too: "For example, someone known or likely to be in financial difficulties who is regularly targeted with high interest loans may sign up for these offers and potentially incur further debt."

Pricing is in scope too: "Automated decision-making that results in differential pricing based on personal data or personal characteristics could also have a significant effect if, for example, prohibitively high prices effectively bar someone from certain goods or services."

Finally, there's an example of profiling reducing a credit card limit. "This could mean that someone is deprived of opportunities based on the actions of others."

Anecdotally, getting kicked out of my email account has had far bigger effects on me than being rejected my credit card application.

https://ec.europa.eu/newsroom/article29/items/612053/en

This is correct. The Article 22 rights are the most narrowly-restricted of any data subject rights granted by GDPR. It only applies to things that are a Very Big Deal, like prison sentences, voting rights, or eligibility for government services.

While not tested by the courts, there is a plausible argument that "similarly significantly affects him or her" might apply to bans that impact your ability to earn a living. So streamers getting banned from YouTube, or AdWords bans for businesses where that's their main source of revenue. Bans that are lower-stakes than that get harder to justify under Article 22.