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by bfung 1604 days ago
Use a different browser that’s not chrome.

Problem solved.

Disclaimer: I don’t use Brave because I don’t want to see more ads. In the 90s, there were little banner ads that ran on your pc in the same app that helped you connect to the internet. That’s essentially what Brave is, except I don’t NEED to see more ads, as I needed to pay for internet in the early days. Just us a browser that blocks cookies.

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Wont work, the moment this lands in Chrome websites will check for it and if your non chrome browser doesn't implement it they will redirect you to an upgrade your browser page. Browsers that fake it will get the same treatment, do not track has already shown that advertisers will not respect any attempt to prevent tracking by the user.
Controversial opinion:

Why is that wrong?

If you want to consume content that costs money to produce that is being paid for via advertisement, and your user agent blocks said advertisement, why should you be entitled to that content?

Controversial counterpoint: If you want any minimum wage job your boss should have the implicit right to install cameras in your bathroom and sell videos of you showering on the internet.
Comparing user configurable topics of interest (in full control of the user and the browser the user decides to use) to involuntary camera recording in your home is some next level disingenuous bullcrap.

Do better here please.

I never said that you couldn't tape over any camera you found. Just that your boss can implicitly install cameras and since the topics are subject to change he can install new ones without telling you any time he likes.
Brave is far from being my primary browser, but this is far from an accurate take.

I wanted to play with Brave Rewards, and it's actually surprisingly involved to enable it and get it to start showing ads... By default, Brave is pretty much "just another Chrome clone", albeit with default privacy settings that everyone but Chrome has accepted should be standard.

FWIW, NetZero was pretty cool if you couldn't afford the phone bill for using AOL. :P

> In the 90s, there were little banner ads that ran on your pc in the same app that helped you connect to the internet.

NetZero & Juno, the good ol’ days of free dialup!

NetZero was the best. When you created an account with their custom dialer it generated a username and password pair (that the user didn't know) for the local dial-up POP in your town. The credentials were stored in a text file using a substiution cipher, so you could extract them and create your own Windows Dialer profile to get free internet without having to use their dialer that showed ads on your screen.
I use 100% of my earnings to donate creators (mostly YouTube and Github). I'm very generous and very cool.
How are you seeing ads in Brave? I don't see anything. I believe you have to turn them on, no?
> How are you seeing ads in Brave

I don’t, I’ve never used Brave.

From https://brave.com/brave-rewards/

   Brave Ads do not replace current web page ads. By default, Brave blocks privacy-invading web ads and trackers that are embedded in page content. Joining Brave Rewards and viewing Brave Ads does not affect your current blocking settings for each website you visit. The ads you see as part of Brave Rewards are shown separately from your browsing experience and are not the same as the invasive, performance-sapping ads embedded in websites.
But I can already block ads with uMatrix and other ad blockers. So why do I need another browser that does essentially the same, but adds more complexity to the mix, potentially more browser bloat? So instead of funneling ad spend to google, it’s funneled to Brave - but that doesn’t really make a difference to me as a consumer. I can donate or buy products of creators I want to support w/o dealing in BAT.
> I don’t, I’ve never used Brave.

In this case your entire comment is pure FUD and a cheap shot at Brave.

I’ve been using Brave for 2 years, never saw a single ad.

> never saw a single ad

That cannot be true; brave cannot block first party ads.

I’m saying something very simple:

1. Brave is a browser like any other, in fact, built on top of chromium.

2. The ad blocking can be achieved with ad blockers using normal browsers. There’s ways to block cookies too.

3. Brave has presets for 1&2. Additionally, Brave adds on top more opt-in ads using BAT as an incentive.

Hence, use a normal browser with ad blocking, not chromium based, and FLOC is a non issue. Don’t use chrome, don’t use brave, no need to bother with this article about floc or whatever google api.

> That cannot be true; brave cannot block first party ads.

Do all sites on the internet employ first party ads? No? Then it can be true.

It cannot be true that you never saw a single ad because brave cannot block first party ads and the probability that you never ever visited a site that uses 1st party ads is basically zero.
>> That cannot be true; brave cannot block first party ads.

> Do all sites on the internet employ first party ads? No? Then it can be true.

Except we know you go to at least one website with first party ads - HN.

> That cannot be true; brave cannot block first party ads.

Not true. Brave blocks YouTube ads.

They meant Brave ads.
Brave does have a feature that displays ads in exchange for BAT, so it's not a cheap shot. https://brave.com/brave-rewards/
It is a cheap shot because you have to explicitly go out of your way to enable it.

There’s no conceivable way a Brave user sees ads without very explicitly digging through the settings and enabling them.

Which leads me to wonder, have you yourself ever used Brave?

I use Brave. I have the rewards enabled.

When you open a new tab, does it not show an ad for you as the wallpaper of the new tab? I thought that space would show an ad regardless of rewards are on or off.

The ads that I get that I know are because of rewards is the desktop notifications that it pushes, that you can click on. Only ever clicked on a couple of them at most I think, but still have them enabled because I think the idea of Brave rewards and BAT is interesting.

Also, I no longer remember but, when you install Brave it does ask whether you want to enable Brave rewards or not, didn’t it? In which case I think at least some people might be clicking yes without meaning to/understanding. But in my case it was intentional anyways.

Negative, Ghost Rider. Disingenuous at best.
Key word: joining Brave Rewards