[epinephrinios]

It's "down, down, down" only if you entered at a very high price: https://athcoinindex.com/coin/bitcoin

As the great Andreas Antonopoulos said, everyone gets the Bitcoin price they deserve.

[dadoge]

Slight correction:

It’s down down down if you entered at a high price AND sold within 3yrs

No one who held BTC for 3-4 yrs straight has lost money on their investment throughout the entire history of BTC

There will be a point in time where this won’t be true anymore, but I think we are far from it

[cuteboy19]

70% of people who bought Bitcoin bought it in the past year. With these statistics, it is very likely that more people lost money through Bitcoin than gained it.

Someone has to pay for all the Bitcoin mining around the world, so it's probable that Bitcoin as a whole is net negative. That is, the average investor loses money on Bitcoin.

[dadoge]

What about anyone who fully understood its value proposition and held for a 3-4 yr timeframe?

EDIT: let’s check back in in 1-3 yrs here and see if people who bought last year and held are doing :-)

[cuteboy19]

I'm sure such people exist, its just that there are probably more losers than winners in this net negative game.

Analogously, there are some people who have won a lot of money from casinos but the average gambler loses money because the house always wins. Miners are 'the house' for this analogy

[dadoge]

I don’t buy that analogy one bit.

BTC supply is growing at a rate of less than 2% now. 90% of the supply is already mined.

Miners play a very small role now in getting new supply

[jazzyjackson]

mining rewards in the form of new supply is not the only way miners make money - they are the house because they take a cut of every transaction. admittedly I don't know the ratio, and I've always been puzzled by the end game - will fees continue to rise as the difficulty ratchets up such that the only incentive to mine is transaction fees? Anyway they can keep winning regardless of price volatility.