[complexworld]

When the vaccines were first tested and approved they reduced the risk of infection by 20 times!

Of course that no longer is true because the virus has mutated under selective pressure.

I hope we'll be better prepared next time. Something like a worldwide simultaneous vaccine campaign, instead of disorganized every country for themselves approach we've seen so far.

[version_five]

I agree with everything in your comment, I guess what I'm saying is that despite what i would call the "academic" success of mRNA it has not actually got us out of anything yet, we still have a pandemic, we still have restrictions, etc. And so even if there are hypothetical pathways that these vaccines can be a part of to get us back to normal, until they happen in practice, I think it's premature (and a bit cultish honestly) to talk about how great they are. Let's withhold applause until we finish solving the problem

[creato]

Vaccines are still highly effective, just not as effective as initially expected. They reduce cases by 5-10x and death by 14-20x: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-s....

What do you think the world would have looked like over the last ~6 months without the vaccines?

[version_five]

I'd look at it the other way and say what would the world be like now of we'd make a vaccine we could celebrate as successful. I want to be clear, it seems like a promising technology, I'm just suggesting we reign in the praise we heap on it until we've actually finished what we started and finished solving a problem with it. Prematurely declaring victory makes an easy target for detractors.