[version_five]

I agree with everything in your comment, I guess what I'm saying is that despite what i would call the "academic" success of mRNA it has not actually got us out of anything yet, we still have a pandemic, we still have restrictions, etc. And so even if there are hypothetical pathways that these vaccines can be a part of to get us back to normal, until they happen in practice, I think it's premature (and a bit cultish honestly) to talk about how great they are. Let's withhold applause until we finish solving the problem

[creato]

Vaccines are still highly effective, just not as effective as initially expected. They reduce cases by 5-10x and death by 14-20x: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-s....

What do you think the world would have looked like over the last ~6 months without the vaccines?

[version_five]

I'd look at it the other way and say what would the world be like now of we'd make a vaccine we could celebrate as successful. I want to be clear, it seems like a promising technology, I'm just suggesting we reign in the praise we heap on it until we've actually finished what we started and finished solving a problem with it. Prematurely declaring victory makes an easy target for detractors.