[wanda]

Oh dear, don't just throw a name and a book title at me. Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Heidegger, Kant, Wittgenstein, Popper, Derrida... none of them got it right or else we wouldn't be having discussions like this one!

But all of those philosophers got closer than anyone in the last 70 years or so because they didn't just throw names and books at each other, they thought for themselves and engaged in debate.

[YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo]

And they also stepped away from a discussion that has no chance to come to fruition.

[marginalia_nu]

There really is no getting away from philosophy. Your entire world view is steeped in tacit assumptions from many of those names you dismiss.

[YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo]

I am not dismissing philosophy I am just not engaging in discussions about it on the internet. When there is no need to even bring it up in the first place our society has a general consciences about what a word means this is shown in most if not all the dictionaries in the world. You both are dismissing this by bringing philosophy to the discussion. 99% of the world does not care about the philosophical meaning of the word "fact" they are interested in the meaning of the word in the general conscience.