[YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo]

And they also stepped away from a discussion that has no chance to come to fruition.

[marginalia_nu]

There really is no getting away from philosophy. Your entire world view is steeped in tacit assumptions from many of those names you dismiss.

[YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo]

I am not dismissing philosophy I am just not engaging in discussions about it on the internet. When there is no need to even bring it up in the first place our society has a general consciences about what a word means this is shown in most if not all the dictionaries in the world. You both are dismissing this by bringing philosophy to the discussion. 99% of the world does not care about the philosophical meaning of the word "fact" they are interested in the meaning of the word in the general conscience.