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by dragontamer 1620 days ago
> You also moved the goalposts from "The fact that there's a bunch of infected deer means that covid effectively transmits outside" to "There's some outdoor transmission", and those two positions are completely different.

The deer samples were anywhere from 14% to 70% COVID19 infected.

You're grossly underestimating the amount of COVID19 we have spread to the deer population (and likely, that deer have spread to each other). All of which happened outdoors.

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> The deer samples were anywhere from 14% to 70% COVID19 infected.

...with an overall rate of 36%, which is given in that very article that you linked. It doesn't matter if 70% of the deer at one site were infected, if the average is significantly lower than that.

...which isn't even relevant, because again, you're moving the goalposts, as stated above.

> You're grossly underestimating the amount of COVID19 we have spread to the deer population

I'm not underestimating anything, as one of the researchers said: "there is no documentation of deer transmitting the virus to humans or vice versa"[1] (another article which you have linked but apparently failed to read).

...and, as a previous study found[2], the virus does not spread effectively outdoors.

You're literally fabricating claims from thin air. There's absolutely no evidence whatsoever for effective human-deer or deer-deer COVID transmission.

[1] https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2022/01/07/deer-ohio-inf...

[2] https://medical.mit.edu/covid-19-updates/2021/08/how-safe-ou...

I mean, I can't really imagine a world where the deer have mostly be infected by humans. It would seem more likely to me at least that there were a few human-deer transmissions, but way way more deer-deer transmissions.
The GP isn't really arguing in good faith - they didn't even fully read (or purposefully omitted sections from) one of the articles that they linked, in which one of the authors of the study says that there is no documentation of deer transmitting the virus to humans or vice versa[1].

[1] https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2022/01/07/deer-ohio-inf...