[zipiridu]

Watch Ray Dalio's videos on the long term debt cycle and how the economy works in general. Another interesting topic is what is called the "fourth turning" which sort of says that major changes happen around once a human lifecycle. We are going to have some major economic changes in the next decade, but no one knows how that will look. I think it's 50/50 whether it's violent or not.

[kccqzy]

I read the fourth turning book. I couldn't finish it just because how tenuous the argument was. It was also debunked by experts. I find it absolutely not interesting at all.

[dgb23]

What is far more interesting is people seeing through the bullshit. Large parts of our lives have been bureaucratized and oozes with an arrogant and paternalistic ideology that tells us how much we’re worth as if it was a law of nature.

Workers find solidarity, meaning and community among peers and realize that we have real power and can have a say in our lives.

I expect this to grow and I hope it creates a counterbalance to centralized power structures that are quite frankly often severely detached from reality.

[angryfeller]

Source for the debunk? Who are these experts you speak of?

[futharkshill]

You are being overly dramatic. A hundred years ago, workers were treated so bad and had such bad living conditions it makes you sick just to hear about it. THAT lead to some violent revolutions in some countries, most of them young, undemocratic, or unstable. Some of them migrated 2,000 km from their home.

People have food, shelter, entertainment.

[cabraca]

its not only about food, shelter and entertainment, its about perspective. if you have to slave away for another 40 years, living paycheck to paycheck, can barely afford a family, a revolution in whatever form it comes might sound good. Check out the Strike at Kellogs, 80h/week, 16h Shifts for barely any money and the Company just wants to fire the striking employees. You can only press so much productivity out of people until they push back and i think we can see that this pushback is starting...

[moonchrome]

> if you have to slave away

Yeah this is the reality disconnect, if you call modern work slaving away you're probably not the kind of person that's going to join a violent revolt, it's easy to write that shit on forums.

[cabraca]

If you call "80h weeks at Kellogs" not slaving away i dont know what is...

If you call "Amazon workers not being allowed to leave or shelter when there is a tornado warning" not slaving away i dont know what is...

What about all those "Gig Economy" Workers that get paid the bare minimum without benefits?

You might not see it from your cozy office because this development hasn't impacted you yet ... but it will sooner or later.

[scollet]

I think the thrust of the issue is having to pay to exist. Doing otherwise is criminal.

It's not a light switch, but we can try paving the roads at the bare minimum so that the societal wagon train can transition.

I do what I can, and you might do as well, but there needs a fundamental ideological shift in how we perceive those cornerstone workers.

[enimodas]

Plenty of stories on /r/antiwork make me feel sick too

[coding123]

I wonder how they would react to posting this link over there:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29581125