[cabraca]

its not only about food, shelter and entertainment, its about perspective. if you have to slave away for another 40 years, living paycheck to paycheck, can barely afford a family, a revolution in whatever form it comes might sound good. Check out the Strike at Kellogs, 80h/week, 16h Shifts for barely any money and the Company just wants to fire the striking employees. You can only press so much productivity out of people until they push back and i think we can see that this pushback is starting...

[moonchrome]

> if you have to slave away

Yeah this is the reality disconnect, if you call modern work slaving away you're probably not the kind of person that's going to join a violent revolt, it's easy to write that shit on forums.

[cabraca]

If you call "80h weeks at Kellogs" not slaving away i dont know what is...

If you call "Amazon workers not being allowed to leave or shelter when there is a tornado warning" not slaving away i dont know what is...

What about all those "Gig Economy" Workers that get paid the bare minimum without benefits?

You might not see it from your cozy office because this development hasn't impacted you yet ... but it will sooner or later.

[scollet]

I think the thrust of the issue is having to pay to exist. Doing otherwise is criminal.

It's not a light switch, but we can try paving the roads at the bare minimum so that the societal wagon train can transition.

I do what I can, and you might do as well, but there needs a fundamental ideological shift in how we perceive those cornerstone workers.