[pessimizer]

Secular doctors were also terrible: before the late-19th century, seeing a doctor was more likely to shorten your lifespan than lengthen it. Unless you needed surgery, which meant that you were in serious trouble anyway, so even with the extreme likelihood of infection your odds were a bit better than just leaving it alone.

As far as I can tell, before like 1880 they prescribed mercury for everything.

Even though they were universally terrible, when you read their writings they're no less confident in what they were doing than modern doctors are.

My favorite historical doctor was Benjamin Rush, a "founding father," who was hilariously bad at his job even for the time.

[hef19898]

Medival doctors seemd to be fairly good, for their time, when it came to broken bones and such. Basically battlefield injuries that didn't damage inner organs. I remeber when they discovered the bones of an English archer. That guy in hos forties had all kinds of broken bones, healed cuts to his bones and head... That and the Egyptian medics, and before, that drilled holes in heads to relieve pressure. Why know those surgeries where successfup because the bone healed on the skeletons we found. Also back the day people seemed to be not too bad when it came to healing properties of herbs.

But you are right, generally speaking you had the choice between really bad, utterly had, extremely bad and outright killing theit patients bad doctors for the most part of history.

[otabdeveloper4]

> before the late-19th century, seeing a doctor was more likely to shorten your lifespan than lengthen it

Medical malpractice is the third-leading cause of death. (After cancers and cardiovascular problems, aka "old age".)

This is inevitable as we can't really experiment on people and do real science.

[ncmncm]

An unknown, but large fraction of all three trace, lately, to sugar, among British subjects and its former colonies. It is probable that declining US life expectancy traces to sugar exposure.

[elliekelly]

The BBC did a short series called "Victorian Pharmacy" where they attempted to use Victorian-era cures on modern people. Except they couldn't even try most of them because they were too dangerous - opium, arsenic, mercury, cocaine, etc. And the things they could try (excepting Lea & Perrins sauce) were basically torture devices like the Malvern Water Cure[2].

[1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXnVTMzSy3s

[2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malvern_water

[trgn]

Yep. Apothecaries were the main source of routine medical care for the masses. To the extent that "an apothecaries wages" was an idiom to refer to their high incomes, somewhat pejoratively.

This is still the case in many communities worldwide, a good pharmacist is a real anchor for providing care for day-to-day health care. It's a great filtering mechanism too, the pharmacist as a buffer for frivolous doctor's visits.

Contrast that to here in the US. When's the last time somebody sought out direct medical care from a pharmacist? Pretty much the kneejerk always is go straight to a doctor, no matter how small the discomfort.