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by moistly 1664 days ago
The polar ice caps were at the lowest volume ever in 2017, and have broken records continuously this past decade or so: “Still there” is a disingenuous dismissal of their morbid condition. http://psc.apl.uw.edu/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/schweiger...

The coral reefs are collapsing. To claim otherwise is simply ludicrous. https://www.cell.com/one-earth/fulltext/S2590-3322(21)00474-...

Sea levels are rising an eighth of an inch a year, and over 2 ½ inches this past forty years. This is noticeable. https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html

Extreme weather events have doubled in the past two decades. https://e360.yale.edu/digest/extreme-weather-events-have-inc...

You are deeply uninformed.

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Extreme weather events haven't doubled in the past two decades. That is ludicrous. Additionally the article you link doesn't even say that.

Neither are the coral reefs collapsing.

https://www.royalgazette.com/environment/news/article/202108...

(btw this claims sea level rise is less then 1/10 of an inch year, not 1/8).

Great Barrier reef has record levels of coral this year.

I've personally observed many sections of the second largest reef in Mexico/Belize within the past few years and the corral are healthy with many young corral and look pretty much as they did when I first saw them 30 years ago.

The reefs are not collapsing. This is reality, not propaganda, not the output of theoretical models. How do you square this with some of the more extreme predictions? It is very interesting how we both have watched over the same time period and see different things apparently.

I don't believe I'm uninformed at all. I just don't believe the hype anymore.

You have no idea what you’re on about. You should have indicated that you’re a denier, and saved me this waste of time. Good luck.
Naw, these are facts and what I've observed. My position was implicit from the first and if you didn't observe it I guess I understand not observing what has happened in the real world as opposed to what was predicted to happen in 1991.

There is a lot hype and propaganda but hey, you have me neatly categorized as a denier, now you can safely ignore facts that don't square with your chosen ideology and go on about your week.

If you are really 50+ and have been paying attention the whole time I have no clue how you could not have some cognitive dissonance. The models weren't accurate. The extreme predictions didn't come to pass.

Catastrophe is not imminent and both of us will die with the earth pretty much as it is now to the naked eye climatewise.

I am replying so that others can be informed.

* NASA: [Study Confirms Climate Models are Getting Future Warming Projections Right](https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2943/study-confirms-climate-mo...)

* Scientific American: [Climate Science Predictions Prove Too Conservative Checking 20 years worth of projections shows that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has consistently underestimated the pace and impacts of global warming](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-science-p...)

* Yale University: [Can We Trust Climate Models? Increasingly, the Answer is ‘Yes’](https://e360.yale.edu/features/can_we_trust_climate_models_i...)

* Geophysical Research Letters: [Evaluating the Performance of Past Climate Model Projections](https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/2019...) — "We find that climate models published over the past five decades were skillful in predicting subsequent GMST changes, with most models examined showing warming consistent with observations"

* MIT: [Historical Climate Models Accurately Projected Global Warming](https://eapsweb.mit.edu/news/2019/historical-climate-models-...)

In other words, we checked ourselves found everything we did was right!

But those of use paying attention to press releases and what actually happened know better.

LOL. A throwaway account’s fantastical “observations” versus the measurements and analysis from the best universities in the world. FO.