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by mythrwy 1664 days ago
Extreme weather events haven't doubled in the past two decades. That is ludicrous. Additionally the article you link doesn't even say that.

Neither are the coral reefs collapsing.

https://www.royalgazette.com/environment/news/article/202108...

(btw this claims sea level rise is less then 1/10 of an inch year, not 1/8).

Great Barrier reef has record levels of coral this year.

I've personally observed many sections of the second largest reef in Mexico/Belize within the past few years and the corral are healthy with many young corral and look pretty much as they did when I first saw them 30 years ago.

The reefs are not collapsing. This is reality, not propaganda, not the output of theoretical models. How do you square this with some of the more extreme predictions? It is very interesting how we both have watched over the same time period and see different things apparently.

I don't believe I'm uninformed at all. I just don't believe the hype anymore.

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You have no idea what you’re on about. You should have indicated that you’re a denier, and saved me this waste of time. Good luck.
Naw, these are facts and what I've observed. My position was implicit from the first and if you didn't observe it I guess I understand not observing what has happened in the real world as opposed to what was predicted to happen in 1991.

There is a lot hype and propaganda but hey, you have me neatly categorized as a denier, now you can safely ignore facts that don't square with your chosen ideology and go on about your week.

If you are really 50+ and have been paying attention the whole time I have no clue how you could not have some cognitive dissonance. The models weren't accurate. The extreme predictions didn't come to pass.

Catastrophe is not imminent and both of us will die with the earth pretty much as it is now to the naked eye climatewise.

I am replying so that others can be informed.

* NASA: [Study Confirms Climate Models are Getting Future Warming Projections Right](https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2943/study-confirms-climate-mo...)

* Scientific American: [Climate Science Predictions Prove Too Conservative Checking 20 years worth of projections shows that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has consistently underestimated the pace and impacts of global warming](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-science-p...)

* Yale University: [Can We Trust Climate Models? Increasingly, the Answer is ‘Yes’](https://e360.yale.edu/features/can_we_trust_climate_models_i...)

* Geophysical Research Letters: [Evaluating the Performance of Past Climate Model Projections](https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/2019...) — "We find that climate models published over the past five decades were skillful in predicting subsequent GMST changes, with most models examined showing warming consistent with observations"

* MIT: [Historical Climate Models Accurately Projected Global Warming](https://eapsweb.mit.edu/news/2019/historical-climate-models-...)

In other words, we checked ourselves found everything we did was right!

But those of use paying attention to press releases and what actually happened know better.

LOL. A throwaway account’s fantastical “observations” versus the measurements and analysis from the best universities in the world. FO.
Wow, you managed to pack an appeal to authority, an appeal to ridicule and an ad hominem all in one sentence! Topped with a cherry of FO which I assume means "fuck off".

If you are actually any older than millennial (as you claim) I'd be very surprised but it doesn't matter.

You believe whatever you like. Swallow propaganda or not, google around for links that support what you believe, doesn't matter.

The experiment with fossil fuels is going to play out for now and we will see the results. Probably a warmer wetter world in some hundreds or thousands of years. And we as a species will be fine. But in your life, and mine, we are unlikely to see catastrophic climate change.

Oh, and the reefs will still be there as well. You can go see them when you are old which is probably a ways off for you.