[theshadowknows]

Wow, and here I am dropping cash on weed and shrooms like a chump. I’ll be honest, this strikes me as similar to the whole binaural sounds thing…I tried that way back in high school and got nothing from it but my friend swore it was elevating. I won’t knock it, I’m sure some people really do get something out of it and who and I to say otherwise. I might even try it some time. But shrooms haven’t ever let me down. So at least I’ve got a backup

[A4ET8a8uTh0]

I always had this idea that meditation was the long way to the shortcut drugs offered. I am saying meditation, because, despite using fancy new terminology (RS)( ..[is] facilitated by specific induction methods involving relaxation, concentration of attention, and autosuggestion ), the paper does not really describe new phenomenon, but rather.. a new generation rediscovering 60s.

History. Rhymes. And all that.

[mahathu]

>I always had this idea that meditation was the long way to the shortcut drugs offered.

Very well put! Every time I'm on LSD or psilocybin (or even THC in higher dosages) I think "I should learn how to properly meditate to get into this state of insight sober"

[bsenftner]

It is really quite easy: have someone you know provide a nonsense word. In needs to have no logical sense or connections to to anything - pure nonsense. Then, with that phrase held in your most present and loudest inner voice you repeat that phrase in your head. Repeat it over an over, forcefully to drive any other thoughts or thought fragments out of your mental conversation(s) (at all mental conversation levels, if you have more than one going at once). After a few minutes of forceful repeating, it echoes on it's own, and a few realization moments later 20-30 minutes have passed and it feels like waking from a refreshing dream. When in the "state", it really can't be described because it is whatever your imagination and recent experiences feedback froth back and forth. It's relaxing and refreshing, and a great way to clear one's head when working on difficult complex mental goals.

[taneq]

That just sounds like dissociation with extra steps.

[bsenftner]

It is a form of sensory deprivation which triggers an awake lucid dream.

[bsenftner]

Some people seem to be able to will suggestive language, phrases, maybe audio additions to take them to an imagined fantasy they will testify in a legal court they "teleported and lived there". I made the mistake of discussing deep meditation as described by the Transcendental Meditation faddists during the Beatles hey days, and ever since that date I have been receiving emails and social media private message questions asking about "reality shifting", as if I'm some type of authority. I had no idea what this "reality shifting" phrase meant, so I responding describing literary authors who are known to have changed and elevated literature (basically, Nobel Literature authors) whom they did not know, but created some type of confusion circle. I still get about a dozen such private message contacts a month, asking how to "reality shift" with a half dozen acronyms and pseudo-science nonsense words in their peas to who they think is some type of reality wizard. I'm at a loss how to respond ethically to such irrational requests, they certainly do not respond to anything as I expect. Too often, the response seems to come from a perspective that I'm being coy, or testing their made up something or other. I feel like I'm on the tangential end of a mass mental disease.

[jimmygrapes]

I'd recommend seeking out a copy of the original HemiSync recordings and follow along at least for the first 3-5 of them. I was skeptical and had no results from other binaural beat and similar things, but HemiSync blew me away.

[theshadowknows]

Thanks for the recommendation consider it done :)

[jimmygrapes]

Funnily enough I just noticed this in the article:

> Some of those who experience RS reported on social media that their practice was first described in a declassified CIA document titled “Analysis and Assessment of Gateway Process.” (McDonnel, 1983). In the document’s 29 pages, the writer, Lieutenant Colonel Wayne McDonnell, outlined a method involving hypnosis and binaural audio stimulation designed to achieve equal amplitude and frequency of EEG patterns in both brain hemispheres. Its purpose seemed to have been the induction of out-of-body states capable of time travel, remote viewing, and, ultimately, information gathering (for a review on out-of-body experiences, see Cardeña and Alvarado, 2014)

This is referring to the very same HemiSync (by the Monroe Institute). Interesting.

[codezero]

If you can learn to focus in your day dreaming, weed can make it much more fun, I can’t speak for shrooms but I suspect if you can handle the hallucination it may be additive to the experience.