[echlipse]

I got my first iphone previous year coming from the android ecosystem. All the things the author mentioned are true. Luckily there was a simple solution to it. I deleted all of those apps altogether. Apple music, tv, wallet and even itunes, removed all of them. Also offloaded a bunch of apps. I’m not letting apple off the hook by saying this though, but at least I can delete the unnecessary apps so that’s alright.

Also, slightly off topic maybe but if you’ve seen the show Ted Lasso the advertisement of apple products is so aggressive that it becomes ridiculous after a point. Almost every other scene contains an apple product.

[ab_testing]

I think deleting wallet will have the unintended side effect that you now cannot use Apple Pay with a 3rd party credit card . So even with an iPhone you would have to take out your credit cards to pay in store and cannot use touch or Face ID to pay in apps.

[echlipse]

You can still pay for apps with touch id. That payment system is separate from Apple Pay.

I'm from India. I don't think Apple pay will be a success here anymore. People here mostly make UPI transactions.

[whyenot]

Wallet is also good for holding things like boarding passes, Clipper (transit card), passes to things like the SF Conservatory of Flowers, and your Covid Vaccine record. I would think twice about deleting it. It's actually kind of useful.

[9wzYQbTYsAIc]

It’s kind of ironic that the same is true for Google and Android.

Except Apple’s business isn’t built on advertising revenue.

[nixass]

Other than google photos, I haven't seen any other intrusive Google made app like the ones from Apple. And even if there were more, Android is so flexible I can do whatever I want with it.

[9wzYQbTYsAIc]

Google Play, YouTube, Google Books, Google Maps, Google Hangouts, Google Messenger, Google Drive, Google Mail, etc are all extremely intrusive apps.

At least with Apple, you have the flexibility to do whatever you want with it and not have to worry about feeding the Google Advertising machine.

[Copernicron]

> Google Play, YouTube, Google Books, Google Maps, Google Hangouts, Google Messenger, Google Drive, Google Mail, etc are all extremely intrusive apps.

With the exception of Google Play, you can delete all of them without issue. If you don't use them, then delete them.

> At least with Apple, you have the flexibility to do whatever you want with it and not have to worry about feeding the Google Advertising machine.

No, you're feeding the Apple advertising machine instead. It's not a coincidence that Apple's share of certain advertisements has tripled since they announced app tracking transparency [0]. I'm certain it's only a matter of time before they make themselves the only company that can advertise to iOS users. Apple collects the exact same data about you that Google does only they're less transparent about it.

[0] https://9to5mac.com/2021/10/18/apples-ad-business-windfall/

[9wzYQbTYsAIc]

> No, you're feeding the Apple advertising machine instead.

No, I have personalized ads turned off.

“You have turned off Personalized Ads, preventing Apple from using your account information or interactions with Apple services for serving ads. You may still be served ads based on the criteria listed below. Your personal data is not provided to third parties.

Contextual Information When you search on the App Store, your query may be used to serve you a relevant ad. On Apple News and Stocks, the type of story you read may be used to select appropriate ads. In addition, information about your device's keyboard language settings, device type, OS version, mobile carrier, and connection type may be used to serve ads to you.”

Also, https://www.apple.com/privacy/labels/

[nixass]

None of these you mentioned is showing ads into your mouth (except maybe Photos, but there are tons of alternatives), while Apple's do.

[9wzYQbTYsAIc]

Stocks, News, and App Store are the only things displaying ads…

[dylan604]

>Almost every other scene contains an apple product.

Gasp. It's almost like it's paid for by apple.

[echlipse]

Is that so! Never realised that when I subscribed to Apple TV to watch it. Lol. Anyways, how does the show being paid by apple have to do anything with what I said? I am talking about advertisements. The number of time we see an apple product on the show kinda get's ridiculous. It was even reported.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/ted-lasso-the-morni...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theodorecasey/2021/03/09/ted-la...

[pxc]

Good for Apple, but when it's so frequent that it's distracting, it degrades the quality of the show.

[GeekyBear]

It's almost like product placement has been a thing for a long time now.

>The popularity of Microsoft’s Surface is the least realistic thing on TV

https://theoutline.com/post/2923/the-popularity-of-microsoft...

Although sometimes these deals blow up in memorable ways.

>Microsoft has had some high profile flubs with its Surface product placement. During election coverage in 2014, CNN pundits were set up behind a row of Surfaces but were spotted surreptitiously using iPads. A partnership with the NFL backfired when Patriots coach Bill Bellicheck blasted them for being “undependable” in 2016.

[spaceisballer]

I mean I’m not a fan of advertisements myself but I don’t find the whole Apple products in Ted Lasso overwhelming compared to most other shows and movies. I mean any time someone is on a phone or laptop obviously it’s gonna be an Apple product. Other shows and movies always find a way to more awkwardly shoehorn something in and call attention to it other than just being a prop. Or the new trend to advertise is to make a joke out of the product as if that wasn’t the plan all along, like Ryan Reynolds hocking his liquor in Free Man or daytime tv shows joking about products.