[lormayna]

> do they hold the patent but fail to scale beyond italy?

Probably yes. It's just a "new" technology, so I don't know what are their plans for the future.

[JanSt]

how does the taste compare to a "normal" espresso machine? I'm currently using ESE pads with a La Piccola machine but want to move on because of all the trash the packaging of pads makes. The taste is quite good though, even compared to a "normal" espresso machine.

edit: and how hard is it to find the correct temperature? I've often had the problem of my Bialetti getting to hot on the stove

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx5-tBAiOM0&list=PLKby2eyvN3... looks really foamy, I'm not sure whether that's a good thing?

[lormayna]

> how does the taste compare to a "normal" espresso machine?

The taste is really comparable with the espresso that you can get at the bar.

> how hard is it to find the correct temperature?

This is the real issue with Kamira. Finding the perfect temperature is a bit tricky and it's not easy to do if you are in hurry in the morning.

> looks really foamy, I'm not sure whether that's a good thing?

The foam is fine.

[JanSt]

thanks!