[Gibheer]

When tiling window managers don't work for you, that is totally fine, but I wouldn't say that they are broken and awful. They all have different trade offs, the same as all the Desktop Environments.

I tried a couple tiling window managers many years ago and none was usable in the way I thought how it should work. But instead of investing time to make it work the way I want it, I just switched to the next one and tried that. I think at that time I tried 5 or 6 window managers a day.

The one that worked for me at the end was one written by Sean Pringle called Musca. It used relative movement from each window and it made so much more sense than all others. Sadly he dropped it a bit later for another project but herbstluftwm is its successor and it worked for me. My config hasn't actually changed for the last 10 years.

There are so many great tools out there we can use for what we want to do. Choose the one you like and works for you. Thats why peoples desks or their work places all look differently. A smith woulnd't talk to a smelter about his setup being awful, because he does a different job.

[md8z]

I don't understand your analogy. If a smelter is using something in a bad or inefficient way and a smith is capable of explaining it to them, then that would be beneficial to do so. People do not have to do exactly the same job in the exact same way in order to discuss how a specific tool works.

Like you, I went through a period where I tried pretty much every tiling window manager I could find. And I can say with confidence: they are all broken and awful, in part because the very concept of tiling doesn't really work. The design is flawed. It's like you are making a comparison between every jigsaw on the shelf and picking out the best one but are missing that you could get a miter saw and that would work even better for your use case. Does that explain it?

[kaba0]

Is musca the one where you divided the screen first, and later could fill specific applications into those areas? I found that pretty cool at the tkme!

It could probably work much better with wayland though, because programs often refused to remain in their little borders.