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by LurkingPenguin 1687 days ago
> (edit: France has legislated 35 as full time - overtime must be paid for hours >35. They are currently considering revising this to 32).

That's great. The parent poster should consider moving to France, where, I understand, there are far fewer tech jobs that pay near what can be earned at large tech firms in the US. I'd be willing to bet money that trade will not result in 25% fewer hours for the same US pay.

> Even if you insist on a pure game theory perspective GP's ultimatum makes sense, though - it sought to address an imbalance in investment by saying either invest more in me or allow me to invest less in you.

Given that the parent poster apparently didn't even submit his ultimatum to his employer, and his employer apparently didn't fight to keep him...

Even in this very difficult environment, most of the people in my network who are hiring in tech/digital media companies are remaining very selective about who they hire. Yes, it sucks to not have the desired staffing levels, but it sucks more to hire the wrong people or keep people who are toxic or ask for way more than they're realistically worth on the mistaken assumption that just because there's a labor shortage, they can demand anything.

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All of your replies sound like the same desperate defenses I see crappy managers make over and over. Just blame the employees.

Contrary to what plenty of people seem to think, companies are not always (or even often) efficient and managers do not always (or even often) operate with logic. Just because a company doesn't fight to keep an employee doesn't mean the employee is dogshit. Last team I left had over 50% turnover before I put in my resignation. No one gave me an exit interview or asked why I was leaving. I had no demands because nothing could have made me stay, but they didn't know that. It should be common sense at that point to ask questions. If your team has people leaving in droves, there's a problem. It's not just coincidence. And while companies not making more of an effort to retain employees over hiring new ones may be anecdotal, as the OP explained, I've yet to see anyone offer much in the way of evidence to the contrary.

the crappy manager posting blamed everything on the leaving employee calling him not thoughtful, unimportant and uncommited and attributed the lack of exit interview to the coroprate super power of remote sensing. Laser vision so sharp there is no need to ask anything.

These are all great indicators that one should leave asap. The value you produce doesnt rub off on your value as an employee.

Lmao the butt hurt manager making a throwaway to blame employees in reply to a comment about how managers/companies blame employees without introspection. You really showed me
> The parent poster should consider moving to France

Not really my point [1], which is this: do you consider all French (with the exception of those who do overtime) uncommitted to their jobs?

[1] that response does serve to reinforce the Mary Poppins banker image, though ;-)