I dont see why it is wrong to be deported if you illegally entered the country. Some may argue that it specifically deports muslims instead of Hindus. However, Hindus are liteally being lynched in each of the neighboring muslim majority countries (Pakistan, Bangladesh). It makes sense that India serves as the primary country to accept hindu refugees. The Indian refugee program also protects blaspheming muslims who have fatwas against them due ot pointing out backwards atiitutes in the religion.
On the contrary, average Bangladeshi muslims have neither economic (Bangladesh is marginally richer) nor societal (Bangladesh is a religious ethnostate for bengalis) reason to immigrate or seek refuge. Thus, India aims to correctly deport them back to their nation.
It is incredibly irritating to see people signal, as if the moral worth of immigration is determined and as if immigration is a good in and of itself.
Bengal is among Indias most deteriorated states since its golden years as the british center of operations. Statistically, the influx of immigrats certainly has not helped.
They didn't enter illegally, please read up on the issue and this article as the countries didn't have borders until after independence so this has and many times this is because they don't have paperwork or proof even if they are from the region. It is an attempt by the government to remove poor Muslim populations from India and blatant religious persecution.
The current government in India is going from a democracy to a Hindu nationalist state.
> countries didn't have borders until after independence
This only applies to anyone who entered after 1971, by when the borders were well established.
> attempt by the government to remove poor Muslim populations from India and blatant religious persecution
That is the allegation from the opposition. The current government denies that and only anyone who entered illegally after 1971 (in accordance with the assam accords) would not be granted full citizenship. It is hilarious that you consider this religious persecution, when the accusers themselves (The INC) were the ones that came up with this bell in the first place for Assam.
The act also does not allocate any special funding to deportation. This means that while some groups would have gotten citizenship, others would have remained just as illegal as they were before this.
There was a lot of misinformation around the act, but the idea that the entire muslim population without documentation would be deported was not just overblown, it was straight up lying.
Western establishment media loves to jump to conclusions on something that there was no indication would happen, and have continued attacking a strawman that has never existed.
> The current government in India is going from a democracy to a Hindu nationalist state.
There is zero indication that this is the case. The Modi Govt. is trying to actively privatize India and that goes actively against the RSS's isolationist ideals. This Govt. is giving opportunities to lower castes that the Congress would never even let stand among them. The party is not nepotistic and rewards grassroots merit instead of the monarchy that India has seen with the Gandhi family for 60 years. If anything, India is far more democratic today than ever.
As for the political power of Muslims, there is a huge caste issue within there that is not addressed at all. The majority of muslims in power are those that trace their roots to upper castes or timurid/persian/afghan invaders. They refer to themselves as Ashraf, and adopt a noticeably non-indic identity. They constitute 15% of all muslims in India, but control the vast vast majority of institutional power for muslims. On the other hand, the common folk who converted, also referred to as Pasmanda get zero representation despite constituting 85% of the population. [1] [2] [3]
Historically, the Congress has loved to give a lot of power to Ashraf Muslims. Modi has stopped giving them the time of day. That is true. IMO, it reflects the last cry of an old elite who have realized that there will be no more free lunch.
At the grass roots, Modi has actually increased funding towards poor muslims [4] and has maintained every special accomodation given to them throughout his term.
The CAA would have given much needed protections to hindu minorities across the border that are being mercilessly slaughtered by muslim fundamentalists that are far more radical than any form of Hindu fundamentalism that exists today. [5] [6]
It is pretty clear this is religious persecution by a majority government with Hindu nationalistic tendencies. Are they fully there yet? No, but the moves they are making are worrisome... democracy doesn't just end, it slowly exits the stage...
The articles you gave are:
1. A YouTube channel by a dude who makes his own podcast. Not backed by any real media organization.
2. The articles you quoted are all from sources in India, in many cases from quasi media organizations, and the stories you referenced have nothing to do with this. Obviously the Times Of India is a great media source compared to the others, but you linked to a story that has nothing to do with this.
Here are some to take a read that outline the issues and the reasons behind this law. From reputable media sources:
I do not quote western news sources, because they are entirely incompetent in their reporting of India. Go to an international news page and read news about the US. You will quickly realize how little nuance and context these external organizations have about the ground reality in the US. You probably know that already, but Gell-Mann Amnesia affects all.
Additionally, foreign news organizations hire from the elite upper crust of India who are often educated from elite Indian liberal arts schools. It is no secret that the elites of India have flourished under the patronage of 60 yrs of Gandhi rule and that universities created in this era were prescriptively moulded in the ideology of the Congress at the time. IE. Socialist & Pseudo-secular. Almost all the heads of major media houses in the country rose to power after the 'blessings' of a Gandhi. Do you think any of them would be capable of doing
At the risk of hurling an ad hominem, I genuinely find the intellectual quality of the traditional liberal arts elites of India to be rather low. It is not surprising, given that no self respecting parent in India would doom their intelligent child to a career (or absence there-of) in media, the most nepotistic of all industries in the country.
> sources in India, in many cases from quasi media organizations
Did you actually just call ThePrint a quasi-news-org ? That's hilarious given the extent to which they go to appear bi-partisan, follow high standards of reporting and do primary journalism. It is headed by the most acclaimed journalist in India, who has previously been the editor of some of the biggest media institutions in the country. He has recieved acclaim from Indians (Padma Bhushan) and International actors [1] alike.
On top of that, they are explicitly liberal and employ experts from every side of the spectrum (Yogendra Yadav to Abhijit Iyer Mithra). To maintain journalistic integrity they have adopted a subscription based model, so they don't sell their soul to ads and one of the few media houses that send real boots on the ground to war zones for 1st party reports.
> Times Of India is a great media source compared to the others
That's even more hilarious, because the times of India is easily the worst of the lot, when it comes to major english newspapers. This isn't just me saying it, almost every Indian knows it. We used to jokingly call it the prostitute, because it sells out whichever party is in power at that time. In my entire life in India, I have never heard anyone call TOI reliable. Not a single time.
> YouTube channel by a dude who makes his own podcast
It was a long form discussion by a community that the national media ignores. How would I find an institutional interview of someone the institutions have abandoned ? There was a reason I linked 2 other sources for you to go off of if the podcast was not of sufficient veracity for you.
> have no factual merit or sources and are sensationalized. One incident doesn't make a pattern or a trend or redemption.
Can you please link to an exact link that has factually false information or where the damages were sensationalized ? I purposely linked to 2 events that have occured within the last week to highlight the frequency of such events. These there were dozens of people killed and their houses burned. Anywhere else, it would have been called a pogrom or a genocide. This same week we have seen hindus lynched on the Punjab border and an outspoken hindu advocating for Kashmiri unity being lynched by Jihadis in Kashmir.
The American left has time and again turned a deaf ear to muslim fundamentalism over the last few decades. I am not sure if that is due to guilt from middle eastern wars or a perception of muslims lying at the bottom of the privilege hierarchy as viewed from the woke lens. However, these mappings fall flat the second you look away from the west. Ashraf muslims were the invaders and historic oppressors, rulers of princely states and are incredibly well represented in positions of power in institutions. On top of that, India institutes special provisions for all minorities, in a manner that no other country does. IMO, India is the most pro-minority country on planet earth and to some degree it is time for Hindus to finally get the same rights in the country as minorities have been enjoying for 60 years. (Mostly due to Nehru's naivete and electoral minority based politics)
For ex, minorities get to fully control their own religious institutions, educational institutions, civil courts, special affirmative action and reservations, and their respective funding sources without needing any transparency. On the other hand, Hindus get none of these accommodations and all their institutions are controlled by the Govt. and sorely underfunded (because the Govt. is poor). Any criticism of a minority religion is considered 'bigotry' but criticism of hinduism is considered progressivism. The hypocrisy is practically dripping from the pens as western sources write about India.
India has always been a country of indic cultures and traditions. Those traditions are carried forward by hindus in an explicit sense, but is also reflected in the unique nature of islam and christianity in the subcontinent. Indians have provided refuge to Parsis, fleeing political refugees, Tibetans and many other communities over the last few centuries. THe people who took them in and allowed them to freely practise their beliefs and traditions were hindus. I am not worried about India's secularism, because secularism is core value of Hinduism. [2][3]
That being said, the wierdly India-specific interpretation of secularism practised by the Gandhi family is one I completely oppose and abhor.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shekhar_Gupta: Under his leadership, The Indian Express won the Vienna-based International Press Institute's Award for Outstanding Journalism in the Public Interest thrice
I think you may find that when illegal migrants get deported, the security of the nation improves...
I live in Hyderabad, the place where the Dilsukhnagar blasts happened. Don't remember hearing of any major jihadist attacks on the past seven years or so... Success of a government no?
They are not illegal migrants, they are people who live there and don't have paperwork and are being pushed out by a Hindu nationalist led government.
If your definition of government success is a lack of terrorist attacks which are already insanely rare I fear for democracy wherever you live. People often trade security for freedom and find out the result of that decision far too late in the process.
In India specifically they are a religious minority so there are some very troubling things happening by what looks to be a growing Hindu nationalist state that is tearing down a multi-religious and multi-cultural democracy.
> Hindu nationalist state that is tearing down a multi-religious and multi-cultural democracy.
India is "multi-religious" and "multi-cultural" because the Hindus are a peaceful people. They have rarely invaded foreign lands. Instead, they have accepted people from other religions as well as those who fled the persecutions at the hands of followers of Abrahamic religions and let them construct their places of worship.
You won't find a single Hindu temple in Mecca or Medina or Vatican City but you will find a million mosques and churches across India including in the holiest sites of Hinduism. But no good deed goes unpunished. And so the millennia-long persecution of Hindus, their traditions and their religion continues in their own lands.[1][2]
There is another component to this Hinduphobia which is anti-semitic at the same time, the Islamic eschatological prophecy of Ghazwa-e-Hind[3][4][5], wherein it is believed that an Army of Islam will start from Jerusalem in Palestine (which is, of course, under the illegal occupation of Israel), march upon and conquer Rome (Christianity). Once that is accomplished, a second Army will invade and conquer India, plunder its riches and drag its kings/leaders in chains to the Levant/Damascus. But this will only occur when the city where the Al-Aqsa Mosque is located is again under Islamic rule.
Cult of personality is central to any kind of politics in India. Modi is relatively tame compared to the complete deification of members of the Gandhi family and certain state leaders.
The reason Modi is highlighted is because he is perceived to be on the wrong side of center, does not know how to do it in a "classy" way and that his predecessor (Manmohan) was specifically installed as a quiet face with no power, personality or political support.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/02/21/india-muslims-deported-...
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2021/country-chapters/india