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by Omnitaus 1712 days ago
I could not get married in the US until less than a decade ago. I can legally be fired in roughly half of the member states of our union based on my identity. I can be legally denied healthcare treatment. This isn't even getting into discrimination with random individuals, which can and does happen in the west. Unfortunately "we don't stone our queers" is not something you get a golden sticker for.

I get it's very en vogue to say marginalized communities secretly control society (Jewish marxist globalists etc) but don't you think we'd have secured equal treatment under the law first? If society is suddenly caving to any and all of my capricious whims I certainly didn't get the memo

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> I can legally be fired in roughly half of the member states of our union based on my identity.

What? Where? And how? "At will" is one thing, but being fired purely because of how you identify? What?

> I can be legally denied healthcare treatment.

Wait, what? Are you talking about about all healthcare, specific procedures, or what? As far as I know, an ER can't refuse to provide healthcare treatment so you must be referring to specific things and not the general umbrella of "healthcare".

Legitimate, sincere questions- I honestly don't know anything about anything.

It was legal in the US (in some states) to fire people for being gay or transgender until very recently: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/06/15/sup...

If you really didn’t know this, you might seriously consider whether you have anything to add to this kind of discussion.

The healthcare issue is more complex. Here’s a useful summary: https://www.hrw.org/report/2018/07/23/you-dont-want-second-b...

> If you really didn't know this, you might seriously consider whether you have anything to add to this discussion.

Two things here:

1) Being snarky with someone asking a sincere question is a wonderful way to alienate them and leave a bad taste in their mouth regarding the topic at hand.

2) The parent said they "can be fired", not "until over a year ago, I could have been fired". They were asserting that this is the current state of affairs, which it isn't, so I asked a sincere question about it. If asking questions to clarify a statement doesn't "add to the discussion", clearly I was taught how to have a conversation incorrectly. But I, and most rational people, don't think that's accurate. So, y'know, maybe take your own advice and consider what your comment brings to the table instead of trying to dunk on people.

As for healthcare, I appreciate the link. It confirms what I was wondering, which is that the parent's comment only applies to specific, specialty services and not the general umbrella of "healthcare".

You have the same rights as every biological man or woman that was born in us (depending on your sex). You already have equal treatment. You want to extend, change and bend the law because the outcomes with current system doesn't suit you