[dingdongbing]

Finally a real answer, and not an increase of 2% chance of blood clots for a certain type of contraceptive pill.

But this doesn't make a difference either because now the man can stop going to the ball blasting session.

The main issue is trust, and why are you having unprotected sex with people you don't trust in the first place?

[matheusmoreira]

> But this doesn't make a difference either because now the man can stop going to the ball blasting session.

It makes a huge difference. Actually it changes everything. With male birth control, there are 4 possible outcomes:

  1. Man and woman don't use birth control.
     Conception is likely.

  2. Man uses birth control. Woman doesn't.
     Conception is unlikely.

  3. Man doesn't use birth control. Woman does.
     Conception is unlikely.

  4. Man and woman use birth control.
     Chance of conception is astronomically low.

Notice how conception is only likely when both partners want it.

When only women have access to effective birth control, they have a lot more leverage and therefore power:

  1. Man has no birth control. Woman doesn't use hers.
     Conception is likely.

  2. Man has no birth control. Woman uses hers.
     Conception is unlikely.

Currently, the choice to have children rests almost entirely on the female. All she needs to do is secretly stop her birth control.

> The main issue is trust, and why are you having unprotected sex with people you don't trust in the first place?

Trust should not be necessary for a matter of this importance. Children should only be born when both partners consent. It's as simple as that.

Also, condoms are not particularly effective at contraception. The statistics assume perfect use and that doesn't happen in reality. Their main purpose is protection against sexually transmitted diseases. That isn't perfect either.

[dingdongbing]

What kind of relationship do you think you're building without any trust and explicitly telling your partner you don't trust her by both of you using contraceptives?

Let the fairer sex have some power

[matheusmoreira]

> What kind of relationship do you think you're building without any trust and explicitly telling your partner you don't trust her by both of you using contraceptives?

One where I don't end up with children I didn't plan to have.

> Let the fairer sex have some power

They do have the power to prevent conception. That's nice.

They should not have the power to have our children without our consent. The reasons for this should be obvious to anyone. I'm honestly surprised it's not considered rape.

[gambiting]

>>The main issue is trust, and why are you having unprotected sex with people you don't trust in the first place?

I guess you never had a condom break? As rare as it is, it happens.

[dingdongbing]

Actually I've had it happen quite a few times, but it's been my own fault every time either for using condoms that were too thin or the wrong size when I first started using condoms or being drunk when putting them on.

[gambiting]

Right, as you yourself admit - it has nothing to do with trust. You can absolutely trust or not trust someone, and a condom can still break, maybe because you made a mistake, maybe for some other reason, but trust isn't the "main" issue.

[dingdongbing]

This guy was talking about female contraceptions, not condoms