Kratom is such a terrible overall experience. I did it recreationally a few times and it’s always headaches and nausea the next day in some kind of hangover that lasts multiple days.
I haven't heard of kratom being used by non-addicts, so I'm not surprised you wouldn't like it - it's like a non-smoker using nicotine patches. It's mainly used by people detoxing from stronger opioids.
I did it when I was coming off heroin (locked myself in my parents' country house for a fortnight or so, took ibogaine and kratom for withdrawals, came out fatigued but basically well). Even then, I found it extremely acrid and unappetising, and not even the resulting 'high' was particularly pleasant. I wouldn't ever take it if I weren't experiencing brutal heroin withdrawals.
You took ibogaine, a drug known to be cardiotoxic. You are a former heroin addict that is projecting your inability to use medicine responsibly onto other folks with medical conditions.
You talk about a high despite me never mentioning getting high, only the pain relieving effects. I could care less about a high. I use Kratom medicinally to help me live a better life.
I am sorry you took pain relieving agents and misused them. I'm sorry you thought street drugs like heroin were suitable quality and safe. I'm sorry for the pain you endured when withdrawing from these drugs. Now, I'm sorry you are projecting all of this on responsible users of much safer therapeutic agents.
Lots of people have had bad experiences with kratom giving them headaches/nausea. This is largely due to poor quality kratom from head-shops and gas stations or from consuming excessive doses. Never buy Kratom that isn't lab tested with GC/MS. And don't take too much of any opioid unless you want motion sickness.
There are lots of strains as well. You may have had a racier green strain. Red Mae Daeng would be closer to a conventional opioid.
Don't listen to /u/samhw. He clearly has no understanding of what it is to use something therapeutically versus in a maladaptive way. I on the other hand have a pre-med degree.
With any drug comes a bit of risk of addiction or dependency. Even antidepressants. Having a healthy attitude and lifestyle and avoiding the stronger things like oxycodone, heroin, methamphetamine, etc is wise.
/u/samhw please avoid discussing topics you know nothing about while labeling those who do as 'addicts.'
I did it when I was coming off heroin (locked myself in my parents' country house for a fortnight or so, took ibogaine and kratom for withdrawals, came out fatigued but basically well). Even then, I found it extremely acrid and unappetising, and not even the resulting 'high' was particularly pleasant. I wouldn't ever take it if I weren't experiencing brutal heroin withdrawals.