[samhw]

I haven't heard of kratom being used by non-addicts, so I'm not surprised you wouldn't like it - it's like a non-smoker using nicotine patches. It's mainly used by people detoxing from stronger opioids.

I did it when I was coming off heroin (locked myself in my parents' country house for a fortnight or so, took ibogaine and kratom for withdrawals, came out fatigued but basically well). Even then, I found it extremely acrid and unappetising, and not even the resulting 'high' was particularly pleasant. I wouldn't ever take it if I weren't experiencing brutal heroin withdrawals.

[goldenkey]

You took ibogaine, a drug known to be cardiotoxic. You are a former heroin addict that is projecting your inability to use medicine responsibly onto other folks with medical conditions.

You talk about a high despite me never mentioning getting high, only the pain relieving effects. I could care less about a high. I use Kratom medicinally to help me live a better life.

I am sorry you took pain relieving agents and misused them. I'm sorry you thought street drugs like heroin were suitable quality and safe. I'm sorry for the pain you endured when withdrawing from these drugs. Now, I'm sorry you are projecting all of this on responsible users of much safer therapeutic agents.