[purchasable20]

No discussion about this? Was hoping for someone to try debunk this, at least.

It's too hard getting sound opinions. Most of the internet is a shit show. Hacker News usually comes through. Covid topics are the hardest to find proper discussion on. There's not even a good tl;dr. Officially published stuff directed at the general population is too brief. These sources don't educate, they only try to build trust. With covid being a risky topic, I understand why these sources are extremely focused on "safe" facts, while topics that could be taken wrongly are omitted. I think I'm ready to read about these topics, but accredited sources only leave you with thousands of papers as the only alternative to the general population stuff. I don't have a relevant background and therefore lack the necessary skills to understand these papers. This only leaves me with unaccredited sources like the letter posted here. Health's the most important thing one has, and I want to protect it as best as I can. I think there's no proper discussion regarding covid and vaccines anywhere on the internet. I would like to be proven wrong though.

[bartimus]

So basically the whole conspiracy theory can only work if there's nanochips in the vaccines.

If the goal is some economic advantage the vaccines don't make sense. You would exactly focus on treatment drugs. Not preventative drugs.

If the goal is population control you wouldn't introduce a vaccine that's more deadly than the virus. You wouldn't want to damage the loyal citizens and save the disobedient anti-vaxxers.

The same goes for the idea that they are working towards a social credit system. You would want the vaccines to work. You would then introduce more dangerous and deadly variants of the virus to wipe all those people not joining the system.

It doesn't make sense.

For this ploy to make sense there needs to something else. Something valuable to the new world order. Something so valuable that it's worth the risk to inject people with vaccines that are more damaging than the virus itself. Something that allows the NWO to control the people.

Thus the conspiracy only makes sense if there's nanochips involved.

These versions of the conspiracy are mutually exclusive. Yet I see a bunch of these versions in the Spartacus letter. Why would you fool around with "dangerous" mRNA tech if the goal is to inject nanochips?

[Nobodytobe123]

Take a look at the georgia guidestones. They say right there they want a population of 500m. So obviously some culling is also part of the plan. Might they cull some of the "wrong people"? Maybe, or maybe it is just a numbers game.

[Nicias421BCE]

Some good points made, but keep in mind from an economic perspective it works because of the requirement of regular booster shots

[bartimus]

Unless you enjoy moving the goalposts you need to pick one version of the theories:

* Traditional capitalist companies trying to make a profit.

* Traditional capitalist companies colluding with governments, scientists and the media to make profit.

* A secret world order colluding with the media, governments and big pharma/tech to ensure population control through vaccines.

* A secret world order colluding with the media, governments and big pharma/tech to ensure population control through engineered viruses and vaccines.

* A secret world order colluding with the media, governments and big pharma/tech implant nanochips that give them certain controlling abilities.

Then either COVID is a hoax or not. If it's a hoax you wouldn't want the vaccines to be unnecessarily dangerous (with experimental mRNA tech). Better just inject people with something safe like water (and optionally nanochips). Therefore COVID probably is not a hoax. People are really dying.

From a purely economic perspective it doesn't work if your product doesn't work as advertised. We have checks in place to ensure this. So the anti-vaxxer needs to come up with extra theories why vaccine companies are able to sell faulty dangerous products. There needs to be some secret worldwide collusion with governments, the scientific community, the media and tech companies. All these people willing to turn a blind eye. Risk their careers so that some Big Pharma companies can make a profit?

Lobbying happens. But would be impossible to achieve at such a large scale. It would be horrible bet to make for a profit seeking company. There's no guarantee it will succeed. Their business would be obliterated completely if anyone ever found out. It doesn't make sense.

From hereon we get into the more exotic theories.

[Nobodytobe123]

So your argument is, it can't be a conspiracy because that would be a big conspiracy. You mean, World Economic Forum big? Or Bilderberger big? Or free mason big? Bigger?

[xyzzy21]

The medical parts are correct. Nothing to debunk.