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by Xevi 1739 days ago
I switched from Firefox on Android to Brave. Not because I like Brave, but because I disliked the new UI in Firefox. Brave also had much better performance for JavaScript and CSS animations.
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I tried brave. But I constantly had ads on it. It would block trackers and ads on websites but if I was to open a few tab it would have crypto ads or some other nonsense.
I don't see any ads when using Brave. What kind of crypto ads are you talking about?
He’s talking about the empty tab screen. You can control what’s on it, but by default it does show ads.
Okey, maybe I changed that a long time ago and forgot about it. Mine just shows my most visited sites.
I think the UI on FF mobile is more than fine.. what did you not like about it?
I copied the following from one of my other comments since it's a lot of text, but these are the reasons I moved off Firefox for Android (Fenix) to Brave. Also, Chromium-based browsers for Android have none of the following issues.

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- Scrolling up on Google search's results page and some other pages is not registered half the time, and sometimes triggers pull-to-refresh instead

- Scrolling up inside an input box while the page is at the top of the screen causes unintentional pull-to-refresh

- Bitwarden autofill is not registered unless you kill and restart the app after logging in

- You can't save images that require cookies to be passed to the request, such as under DDoS protected pages

- Links will sometimes redirect to about:blank unless you go back and click them again

- Most recently visited page is not restored when closing and reopening the app, even though it's saved to the history (closed as wontfix)

- Uses large amounts of memory, causing Android share actions to be silently killed due to OOM unless you quickly kill the app right after sending them

- Closing a tab and clicking "Undo" in the popup sends the tab all the way to the top of the list, instead of its original position (inconvenient if you have a large number of tabs open)

- Frequently loses open tabs in memory, even within ten seconds of navigating to another tab

- Startup time is noticably slower than Brave, taking at least a few seconds to show the UI and begin loading the page. It isn't much, but it impacts the user experience every time you start the app again.

Are you sure you're talking about Firefox? For example it doesn't even have pull to refresh so you can't trigger it unintentionally :)

I use it all the time now because it supports uBlock Origin and Dark Reader and I think it's good. And I have all my bookmarks on Firefox sync. I have some minor issues with it like the tab list that doesn't always scroll right but they're not deal-breakers.

UI is fine but 1. Battery consumption is at least twice the one of Brave 2. There is no option to always get the desktop site which makes it useless for tablets

Main reasons I also moved to Brave on all my devices. If these are fixed and Mac battery consumption is fixed I'd go back asap

Brave is a decent browser but I won't use anything from Brendan Eich. I also don't really agree with their BAT token stuff. I just want adtech to die at this stage, not to find an alternative model. Direct payments to sites I do support however and I'm a member of several.

I guess both opinions aren't popular :) But that's my reasons to use Firefox despite not being fully happy with it.

Seems hyperbolic to state, when I'm sure you're using javascript umpteen times daily.

Very arguable that Eich's single handedly more responsible for javascript than Brave, engineering wise.

I'm not a crypto fan, or of adtech, but BAT is atleast a functional solution to directly supporting sites.

Fair enough. The whole gay marriage thing just really annoyed me. I have some close friends who are struggling with such prejudice every day. And that's in a country where marriage isn't a problem for them.

It's one thing for an employee to have private views but another for a CEO to actively try and influence the law. Especially for something that's in my opinion totally a private matter between people. I don't want to support the brand because of that.

But I'm not doubting his skills as an engineer. It's more about the brand and its values. For a public figure like a CEO these things are hard to separate, I understand that. But we live in a world where a brand is more than just a name on a sticker. If I'm using it I'm also supporting the associated values.

But I agree the way I said it was hyperbolic.

For me it's exactly that Firefox is actively activist in more than a web standards and privacy type sense that made me drop them. I don't need a browser maker to be interested in telling me what I should see.
> It's one thing for an employee to have private views but another for a CEO to actively try and influence the law.

Which he did not. He wasn't CEO at that time. He made "small" donations from his own money under his own name years before his appointment. And at no point did he abused Mozilla for any personal political goal of him AFAIK. He just was an employee supporting his own private views. Just that he is a bit more famous than your average employee.

I'm trying to use brave search as an alternative to google, since it is an actual search engine that does indexing as opposed to DDG, and I don't want to use bing either.

What upsets me is that there's no way to add it as default search in a browser, on purpose, because they want you to have to install brave browser to do that. Nothing upsets me more than when someone deliberately makes their product less useful. I do not like Brave, but I will use the search engine for now.

We do not prevent you from adding Brave as default search to other browsers. I'm not sure why you think we would, so please tell me more. Thanks.

To make Brave Search default in another browser, please load https://search.brave.com/help/default. In Safari, there's no way we know of to add an alternative default. Apple controls the dropdown list's contents. But try this link in Firefox or Chrome.

So I tried. The link you give just gives you a link that says "read instructions specific to your browser" and when I click that link I just get "instructions not available for such and such browser." The instructions do not have to be specific to the browser. Why doesn't brave just implement OpenSearch?
When brave search was first released there was no way to add it, I haven't tried since, and there was some material saying get brave browser to make it your default search engine.

I will try to do it again, thanks.