[GekkePrutser]

Brave is a decent browser but I won't use anything from Brendan Eich. I also don't really agree with their BAT token stuff. I just want adtech to die at this stage, not to find an alternative model. Direct payments to sites I do support however and I'm a member of several.

I guess both opinions aren't popular :) But that's my reasons to use Firefox despite not being fully happy with it.

[AwaAwa]

Seems hyperbolic to state, when I'm sure you're using javascript umpteen times daily.

Very arguable that Eich's single handedly more responsible for javascript than Brave, engineering wise.

I'm not a crypto fan, or of adtech, but BAT is atleast a functional solution to directly supporting sites.

[GekkePrutser]

Fair enough. The whole gay marriage thing just really annoyed me. I have some close friends who are struggling with such prejudice every day. And that's in a country where marriage isn't a problem for them.

It's one thing for an employee to have private views but another for a CEO to actively try and influence the law. Especially for something that's in my opinion totally a private matter between people. I don't want to support the brand because of that.

But I'm not doubting his skills as an engineer. It's more about the brand and its values. For a public figure like a CEO these things are hard to separate, I understand that. But we live in a world where a brand is more than just a name on a sticker. If I'm using it I'm also supporting the associated values.

But I agree the way I said it was hyperbolic.

[soundnote]

For me it's exactly that Firefox is actively activist in more than a web standards and privacy type sense that made me drop them. I don't need a browser maker to be interested in telling me what I should see.

[slightwinder]

> It's one thing for an employee to have private views but another for a CEO to actively try and influence the law.

Which he did not. He wasn't CEO at that time. He made "small" donations from his own money under his own name years before his appointment. And at no point did he abused Mozilla for any personal political goal of him AFAIK. He just was an employee supporting his own private views. Just that he is a bit more famous than your average employee.

[betwixthewires]

I'm trying to use brave search as an alternative to google, since it is an actual search engine that does indexing as opposed to DDG, and I don't want to use bing either.

What upsets me is that there's no way to add it as default search in a browser, on purpose, because they want you to have to install brave browser to do that. Nothing upsets me more than when someone deliberately makes their product less useful. I do not like Brave, but I will use the search engine for now.

[BrendanEich]

We do not prevent you from adding Brave as default search to other browsers. I'm not sure why you think we would, so please tell me more. Thanks.

To make Brave Search default in another browser, please load https://search.brave.com/help/default. In Safari, there's no way we know of to add an alternative default. Apple controls the dropdown list's contents. But try this link in Firefox or Chrome.

[betwixthewires]

So I tried. The link you give just gives you a link that says "read instructions specific to your browser" and when I click that link I just get "instructions not available for such and such browser." The instructions do not have to be specific to the browser. Why doesn't brave just implement OpenSearch?

[betwixthewires]

When brave search was first released there was no way to add it, I haven't tried since, and there was some material saying get brave browser to make it your default search engine.

I will try to do it again, thanks.