[refurb]

Wow, that's a pretty lazy and misleading description of the situation.

He was stripped of citizenship and it was instated 3 times by the Canadian court system. Why? "2013 Supreme Court ruling that guilt by association is not sufficient grounds to be considered a war criminal."

What you called "sheltering nazi war criminals" I would call due process. You know, not actually punishing people unless they've been fairly judged as guilty according to the law.

[anticodon]

He's not the only one. I read about him recently that's why I was able to remember his name. There were/are others like him.

Even more, in Canada there're memorials dedicated to nazi war criminals, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Shukhevych

[mafuy]

I don't know much about this topic, but: Please do not use that guy as an example in your earlier post if he is not a good example. It made it sound to me as if your goal is to convince, not to lead others to truth. Instead, just point to your strongest point (the memorials, I believe).

Regarding the memorials, I could not find this in the link. Could you point me at it?

[anticodon]

https://www.rcinet.ca/en/2018/08/13/shukhevych-monument-cana...

[q1w2]

The article you link does not mention any memorials in Canada for this person - nor did they ever even live in Canada. He was shot by the Soviet security agents in 1950 in Ukraine while fighting for Ukrainian independence. ...and then his entire family was imprisoned to set an example to others.

There is also no evidence that this person committed any war crime at all. The notes in the link document that his military division committed war crimes.

Guilt by association? Collective punishment? Really?

[anticodon]

He joined the nazi forces, infamous Schutzstaffel (SS) during WW2. He participated in killing tens of thousands of Jews (and Russians, but that doesn't count in the western world anymore).

He isn't guilty by association - he was a leader of death squadron and he is directly responsible for extermination of tens of thousands of non combatants.

[q1w2]

These are all your guesses. The article doesn't say literally anything about him killing anyone or ordering anyone to be killed.

[anticodon]

Wikipedia is not 100% reliable and universal source of truth. Besides, he was a leader of the SS battalion and he got Iron Cross for his war crimes from nazies. Does such a person deserve a monument in Canada?

[kingofpandora]

Such a monument exists: https://www.theprogressreport.ca/monuments_to_nazi_collabora...

[908B64B197]

Wondering if they gave the same due process to Acadians that were savagely deported from their homes? [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_the_Acadians

[refurb]

Canada didn’t exist 270 years ago so this isn’t relevant.

[908B64B197]

Forgot it materialized out of thin air one morning.

Same crown as today was in charge back then. Same head of state.

[refurb]

That's ridiculous.

[q1w2]

This is a classic "whataboutism" argument.

The Acadians were deported literally hundreds of years before.

Maybe we should demand Mongolia apologize for Genghis Khan as well?

[HWR_14]

This is why the US makes you sign forms promising you are and were not a Nazi in Germany during the 30s/40s and were never affiliated with various terrorist groups as as part of the customs paperwork. It's unclear what US laws could apply to all those members, but lying on that form is a clear and serious felony.

[fmajid]

When I went through my US naturalization process, I was surprised to note that while they still ask whether you were a Communist or a member of a terrorist organization, they no longer explicitly ask if you were ever a Nazi. Then again, this was under Trump.

[HWR_14]

I mean, the question was specific to the German WWII Nazi party. The youngest person who could check yes is probably 80 if they were a 6 year old in their first year of school right before Germany surrendered, and 90 if they could make an adult decision.

Seems slightly early for it to go away, but the question did have a finite lifetime.