[lostapathy]

> As an example VW reports that 70% of the energy the use in plants is provided by renewable sources.

This is a great start, but not where most of the carbon embodied in a new vehicle comes from. The energy used by the VW plants keeps the lights on, air conditioned, and powers tools for assembly. Most of the carbon embodied in a car comes from the energy it takes to mine raw materials and process them into useful metals.

[Tade0]

> Most of the carbon embodied in a car comes from the energy it takes to mine raw materials and process them into useful metals.

Yes, and that is included in this estimate.

Producing a tonne of steel emits 1.85t of CO2. The estimate for mining and processing is "just" 270kg/t:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/324486263_Analysis_...

This pales in comparison to the 20 tonnes of fuel a typical car is going to work itself through throughout its lifetime. And all this fuel has to be first extracted and refined.

[burntwater]

This seems to be the crucial bit that is always missing from these discussions. I don't doubt that the CO2 emitted in the assembly of the car is less than in the driving. But I'm curious about all the other environmental impacts (of which CO2 is just one small bit). The destruction of wildlife habitat, the poisoning of ground water, etc, that's involved in the retrieval and processing of the raw materials, on up through the chain.