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by fraa-orolo 1767 days ago
The thing is that this is a better and more privacy preserving technique.

Their hubris is in not seeing or thinking that they will be able to stand up to all kinds of abuses of this system that its mere existence will invite; their hubris is also in thinking that they will be able to perfectly and without mistakes manage and overview a system making accusations so heinous that even the mere act of accusing destroy people's lives and livelihoods.
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shuckles 1767 days ago
What abuses apply to CSAM scanning in this hybrid pipeline which don’t apply to iCloud Backup? If they scanned on the server, why couldn’t governments “slippery slope” abuse the system by requiring that all files on iOS end up in iCloud Backup, where they can be scanned by the system?

Since the announcement, I can think of a dozen ways Apple could be easily forced into scanning all the contents of your device by assembling features they’ve already shipped. Yet they haven’t. At some point, people need to produce evidence that Apple cannot hold the line they’ve said they will.

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int_19h 1767 days ago
The governments always could do that, but then they'd be the target of the pushback, and there's already significant mistrust of governments wrt surveillance because of how it can be abused.

What we have now is Apple, with its "strong privacy" record, normalizing this. If it succeeds, it would be that much easier for the governments to tackle other stuff onto it. Or, say, lower the threshold needed to submit images for review. I can easily picture some senator ranting about how unacceptable it is that somebody with only 20 CSAM photos won't be flagged, and won't somebody please think of the children?

And yes, if it comes to that, Apple definitely cannot hold the line. After all, they already didn't hold it on encrypted cloud storage - and that wasn't even legally forced on them, merely "not recommended".

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candiodari 1767 days ago
Exactly. Also people are strongly objecting that their own device is being used to report them to law enforcement. Surely someone at Apple noticed this beforehand ...
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